messy's 5e newbie questions thread

messy

Explorer
39. what is a ranged spell attack? it's mentioned in the firebolt description, among many other attack spells.

40. is it possible to make more than one attack with an off-hand weapon (while dual-wielding)?

41. is the dualing fighting style usable while holding a shield in one's off-hand?

42. does the druid's nature's ward class feature give immunity to both poison damage and the poisoned condition?
 

MarkB

Hero
39. what is a ranged spell attack? it's mentioned in the firebolt description, among many other attack spells.
It's a ranged attack that uses your spell attack bonus. Spell attacks are described in the Spellcasting chapter, with the note that most spell attacks are ranged, and are subject to the normal rules for ranged attacks - in particular, you roll with disadvantage if you're within 5 feet of a hostile creature.

40. is it possible to make more than one attack with an off-hand weapon (while dual-wielding)?
There's no such thing as an off-hand. The rule is that if you make at least one attack with a light weapon in one hand as part of the Attack action, you can use a bonus action to attack with a light weapon in your other hand.

So, if you had Extra Attack and were wielding two light weapons, you could choose to attack once with each weapon as part of your Attack action, then use a bonus action to attack again with either weapon.

41. is the dualing fighting style usable while holding a shield in one's off-hand?
A shield isn't considered a weapon, so yes.

42. does the druid's nature's ward class feature give immunity to both poison damage and the poisoned condition?
Yes.
 

Dausuul

Legend
39. what is a ranged spell attack? it's mentioned in the firebolt description, among many other attack spells.
Attacks break down in a couple of ways: Ranged versus melee, and weapon versus spell. You can have ranged weapon attacks, melee weapon attacks, ranged spell attacks, and melee spell attacks.

Ranged versus melee: Ranged attacks are made at disadvantage if there is an active enemy within 5 feet. Melee attacks do not suffer this penalty. Casters often overlook the fact that this rule applies to all ranged attacks, weapon or spell.

Weapon versus spell: Weapon attacks use Dexterity or Strength as the attack stat1, depending on the weapon; and you add the stat bonus to both attack and damage rolls2. Spell attacks use your spellcasting ability as the attack stat3; and you add the stat bonus to the attack roll but not the damage roll4.

1. Unless otherwise specified, e.g., hexblade warlocks.
2. Unless otherwise specified, e.g., dual wielding without the fighting style.
3. Unless otherwise specified, e.g... uh... can't think of an exception to this one.
4. Unless otherwise specified, e.g., warlock using Agonizing Blast.


Side note: There is also some confusing terminology around "melee" and "ranged." An attack with a melee weapon is different from a melee weapon attack. For example, throwing a spear is an attack with a melee weapon (because the spear is on the Melee Weapons list) but it is a ranged weapon attack (can hit from a distance and suffers disadvantage if an enemy is close). This is why I play spellcasters.

40. is it possible to make more than one attack with an off-hand weapon (while dual-wielding)?
The short answer: No. No matter how many attacks you make with the main hand, you only ever get a single off-hand attack.

The long answer: 5E doesn't really have "off hands," per se. If you have a weapon in each hand, and you take the Attack action with one of them, you can make a single bonus-action attack with the other. You're free to switch up which weapon you use for the regular attack and which for the bonus action. But the bonus action only ever gives you one attack.

41. is the dueling fighting style usable while holding a shield in one's off-hand?
Yes. In fact, that is the normal way to use that fighting style. It's the "sword and board" option.

42. does the druid's nature's ward class feature give immunity to both poison damage and the poisoned condition?
Yes. "Immune to poison" covers both.
 
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messy

Explorer
18. where are the magic item creation rules? in the dmg?
just stumbled on something that opens up a can of worms in the description for the herbalism kit:

5esrd said:
proficiency with this kit is required to create antitoxin and potions of healing.
doesn't this imply that other magic items, or at least potions, can be crafted? if so, don't we need prices for those items? if a character with an herbalism kit can create a potion of healing, then certainly he/she can create a potion of greater healing, but no price for it is given.
 

MarkB

Hero
doesn't this imply that other magic items, or at least potions, can be crafted? if so, don't we need prices for those items? if a character with an herbalism kit can create a potion of healing, then certainly he/she can create a potion of greater healing, but no price for it is given.
Being able to create a basic healing potion doesn't necessarily mean you can craft a higher-level one. In any case, there are rules for crafting magic items in Xanathar's Guide to Everything.
 

FarBeyondC

Explorer
just stumbled on something that opens up a can of worms in the description for the herbalism kit:



doesn't this imply that other magic items, or at least potions, can be crafted? if so, don't we need prices for those items? if a character with an herbalism kit can create a potion of healing, then certainly he/she can create a potion of greater healing, but no price for it is given.
Prices for most magic items aren't explicitly given; instead suggested magic item value ranges are listed based on said item's rarity. These value ranges are:

RarityMinimum Suggested ValueMaximum Suggested Value
Common50 gp100 gp
Uncommon101 gp500 gp
Rare501 gp5000 gp
Very Rare5001 gp50000 gp
Legendary50001 gp∞ gp

Note that these value ranges are for non-consumable magic items; consumable magic items, like potions, have value ranges that are half of the ones listed above. For instance, a Potion of Greater Healing- a consumable of uncommon rarity- would have a suggested price range of ~51 gp to 250 gp (In Adventure League for example, the price to buy one is currently set at 100 gp, which is closer to the lower end of the said price range).
 

TheCosmicKid

Adventurer
on the other hand, the arcane/divine designation doesn't really seem to exist anymore.
Correct. IIRC there's a little bit of fluff text in the intro to the magic chapter that mentions it, but it does not exist as a rules concept. You won't find anything that refers to "arcane spells" or "divine spells". You can run a paladin as a sort of warrior-sorcerer or a bard as a charismatic holy man, if you want. There is actually an official sorcerer bloodline that's very, very divine.
 
39. what is a ranged spell attack? it's mentioned in the firebolt description, among many other attack spells.
It's a ranged attack that uses your spellcasting ability for it's "to hit" bonus.

40. is it possible to make more than one attack with an off-hand weapon (while dual-wielding)?
If you are holding a weapon in each hand you can attack with either weapon. If you have the Extra Attack class ability you could attack with each weapon.

The bonus action attack for having two light weapons equipped is in addition to that.

41. is the dualing fighting style usable while holding a shield in one's off-hand?
Yes. This one has beein specifically and unequivocally addressed in sage advice.

However, if you make an improvised weapon attack with your shield, then clearly no.
 

Dausuul

Legend
doesn't this imply that other magic items, or at least potions, can be crafted? if so, don't we need prices for those items? if a character with an herbalism kit can create a potion of healing, then certainly he/she can create a potion of greater healing...
Not so. Being able to craft a potion of healing does not mean you can also craft a potion of greater healing. It's like saying that a human being who can run 12 miles an hour must also be able to run 60 miles an hour--there is only so much you can crank the performance of a thing before you have to create a different thing.

The general rule of 5E is that PCs cannot create or buy magic items unless the DM specifically enables them to. The optional item creation rules in the DMG are little more than a sketch, designed to involve the DM at every step (in particular, the requirement of a "formula" which the DM must make available), so the DM can control the flow of items into the campaign.

Potions of healing are an exception to the general rule, presumably because the formula is widely known and the skills required are very basic. As such, PCs can create potions of healing without having to get the DM's explicit permission first*. Like hit dice, it's a way of allowing parties to function without a divine caster.

*Obviously, this is subject to house-ruling like anything else.
 

delph

Explorer
43) One question from me: What is "Weapon damage dice (shortened WDD)"? Great sword and Maul (don't know why just this 2, I welcome few others) have 2d6 dmg. Is WDD then 1d6 or 2d6? Some things make "add 1 WDD" and i don't know if it's only 1d6 (weak ability) or 2d6 (strong ability)
 

messy

Explorer
44. is there a way to create a permanent portal between planes? going outside phb for this is ok.

45. a fighter's action surge grants an extra action. does this mean that bob the 20th level fighter can make four attacks on his turn and then use action surge to make four more attacks on that same turn?

46. are there ability score minimums for spellcasting? it seems possible that fred the 20th level wizard can have an intelligence of 10 and still cast 9th level spells.
 

MarkB

Hero
44. is there a way to create a permanent portal between planes? going outside phb for this is ok.
As an official, standard method between any two planes? Not really. That would go beyond anything specifically defined, and be something to work out with your DM.

45. a fighter's action surge grants an extra action. does this mean that bob the 20th level fighter can make four attacks on his turn and then use action surge to make four more attacks on that same turn?
Yes. He could even do it again on his next turn.

46. are there ability score minimums for spellcasting? it seems possible that fred the 20th level wizard can have an intelligence of 10 and still cast 9th level spells.
No minimums. You could play a Wizard with 3 Intelligence - but it wouldn't be very practical since the character's spellcasting attack modifier and save DC would be terrible.
 

Maestrino

Explorer
44. is there a way to create a permanent portal between planes? going outside phb for this is ok.

45. a fighter's action surge grants an extra action. does this mean that bob the 20th level fighter can make four attacks on his turn and then use action surge to make four more attacks on that same turn?

46. are there ability score minimums for spellcasting? it seems possible that fred the 20th level wizard can have an intelligence of 10 and still cast 9th level spells.
45. And if bob the fighter was using a scimitar (or other light weapon) and happened to have, say, a dagger in his other hand, he could make a bonus action attack with the dagger each time he takes the attack action with the scimitar, for a total of ten attacks in a single turn. :D
 

Beleriphon

Totally Awesome Pirate Brain
45. And if bob the fighter was using a scimitar (or other light weapon) and happened to have, say, a dagger in his other hand, he could make a bonus action attack with the dagger each time he takes the attack action with the scimitar, for a total of ten attacks in a single turn. :D
I'll take my balor smoothie extra smooth please.
 

Sword of Spirit

Adventurer
45. And if bob the fighter was using a scimitar (or other light weapon) and happened to have, say, a dagger in his other hand, he could make a bonus action attack with the dagger each time he takes the attack action with the scimitar, for a total of ten attacks in a single turn. :D
Incorrect. Action Surge does not grant you an additional bonus action. He could still only get the one off-hand attack.
 
44. is there a way to create a permanent portal between planes? going outside phb for this is ok.
What do you mean? Can dungeon masters and powerful NPCs do it? Sure. Under Planescape Rules permanent portals usually require a "key" to use. The key can be pretty much anything, including abstract concepts. Can players do it? Not within existing rules.

45. a fighter's action surge grants an extra action. does this mean that bob the 20th level fighter can make four attacks on his turn and then use action surge to make four more attacks on that same turn?
Yes, action surge grants an extra action, that you can use to do anything you can do with an action, including make multiple attacks (note- Haste+Action Surge synergy) or even cast two spells with a casting time of one action if you happen to know them.

What it doesn't do is give you any extra bonus actions. You still cannot have more than one. This is why duel wielding is considered sub-par for fighters (something I have no problem with personally).


46. are there ability score minimums for spellcasting? it seems possible that fred the 20th level wizard can have an intelligence of 10 and still cast 9th level spells.
No, not in 5e. That was a 3rd edition rule.
 
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Maestrino

Explorer
Incorrect. Action Surge does not grant you an additional bonus action. He could still only get the one off-hand attack.
Ah, I see they Sage Adviced this one. However, their wording still isn't airtight:

Two-Weapon Fighting (under melee attacks, not the fighting style, not the feat) says "When you take the Attack action and attack with a light melee weapon that you're holding in one hand, you can use a bonus action to attack with a different light melee weapon that you're holding in the other hand."

It says when you take the attack action you can use a bonus action. It doesn't say you can use a bonus action if you have not already used one on your turn. I'd even read it to mean that if you have spells and want to cast healing word as a bonus action, then attack with your action, you'd still get the off-hand attack, because it's automatically granted. I'd argue that the specific rule for two-weapon fighting trumps the general cap on bonus actions.

If they really want to eliminate the controversy they need to add a sentence in the PHB like "NOTE: Action Surge does not grant a second bonus action off-hand attack for two-weapon fighting."
 

ad_hoc

Adventurer
It says when you take the attack action you can use a bonus action. It doesn't say you can use a bonus action if you have not already used one on your turn.
You are permitted to use a bonus action to do the thing.

You cannot use a bonus action if you have no bonus action. Just like you are permitted to use an action to take the Attack action. However, you cannot do so if you have no action to use.

They can't bloat the rules to explain all the things you can't do as the rule books would be endless.
 

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