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5E Mike Mearls interview re: Ghosts of Saltmarsh

GreyLord

Adventurer
In all honesty, Mass Combat rules ARE a section of rules that are missing overall for 5e, and there are many that would like to see such rules I imagine.
 

Parmandur

Adventurer
In all honesty, Mass Combat rules ARE a section of rules that are missing overall for 5e, and there are many that would like to see such rules I imagine.
The interesting thing isn't so much that they are thinking about mass combat rules because they have been toying with that for years, as that the vehicle rules actually evolved out of what were first mass combat rules that haven't been broadcast yet (Mearls said they would be in UA "sometime soon").
 

MNblockhead

A Title Much Cooler Than Anything on the Old Site
I’d vote for no more rules. Yea.
Well, your wallet is your vote.

I'm really liking what Matt Coleville is doing with Stronghold & Followers and his mass combat rules, but I'm interested in seeing what WotC will do with mass combat. I've been impressed with how well WotC has designed rules expansions in Xanathar's and Ghosts of Saltmarsh. They are simple, use existing mechanics in sensible ways, and capture the spirit of 5e well.

I've been using Ronny Hart's Nautical Adventure rules since soon after 5e came out. But I just received my copy of Ghosts of Saltmarsh in the mail and I've decided to switch to the official rules. They just fit the 5e system so nicely and give enough tactical crunch to scratch that itch without trying to create a complicated wargame subsystem. After one quick reading I feel that I have a good idea of how to run ship travel and combat and I think with minimal explanation, my players would be able to play using these rules with nothing more than their ship's stat block. I'm impressed.
 

MNblockhead

A Title Much Cooler Than Anything on the Old Site
This may shock you, but there remain some of us that steadfastly refuse to use D&D Beyond and/or have an inordinate love of books.
I buy both. I love the physical books because they are beautiful and I like to sit without electronics sometime and page through a book.

I like D&D Beyond because I can have my entire D&D library in my pocket in an easy to read, easy to search format, cross-linked, and off line.

I am very much likely the current thematic, modular format. Just got Ghosts of Saltmarsh and it is such a great value for me. Same great quality as most of the other 5e books. LOTS of adventure content that can be plopped into any campaign or one as one shots, like Tales From the Yawning Portal, but more fluff to tie them together and run them as as a campaign. Like the other adventure books you have your campaign/adventure specific creatures and magic items at the back.

The nautical rules are very well done. You don't need to use them. You can stick with what is in the DMG. These just give more options. A subsystem for ship combat.

I was also pleasantly surprised at all the material for ocean terrain and encounters, including a number of well designed locations that you can throw in during travel.

I'm so much more happier with this format than I would be for lots of splat books.

A rules compendium would be nice eventually, but I don't know that I would buy it as I have D&D Beyond. Maybe a beautiful 50 year collectors edition. Compendiums suffer from the issue of getting out of date, unless the game becomes static. If you wan't all the rules in one place, and up-to-date, digital is the way to go.
 

jasper

Rotten DM
Ok, It sounds like chapter 1 fluff and Saltmarsh city information. Hopefully more info than what Waterdeep Heist gave us. Chapter 2-8 adventures. Appendix A the Ship rules. Appendix b magic items Appendix C. Monsters.
Hopefully they take a page from Waterdeep heist "Volo’s Waterdeep Enchiridion ". And just sell the Ship rules on DM's Guild.
 

lowkey13

Exterminate all rational thought
I'm so much more happier with this format than I would be for lots of splat books.

A rules compendium would be nice eventually, but I don't know that I would buy it as I have D&D Beyond. Maybe a beautiful 50 year collectors edition. Compendiums suffer from the issue of getting out of date, unless the game becomes static. If you wan't all the rules in one place, and up-to-date, digital is the way to go.
I agree, except the digital part. :) I have no problem (as I stated) with the current way they are doing things.

The main observation that I have is this-

It is fine to have setting- or AP-specific information in the setting or module. For example, if they have a Dark Sun release, it would be great to have the DS information in that release, and not in a splat book.

It is also fine to have player options in different books- I expect that most players, to the extent they want to play an option, will get approval ahead of time and then are responsible for those rules.

IMO, the one and only concern I have is when rules (for example, mass combat, naval, vehicles, etc.) that are useful and not player- or campaign- specific begin to be spread across too many sources. For those of us (*cough* me) that use books, this results in having to lug too many books around, not to mention a certain lack of spontaneity.

Which is why I would be totally on-board for an eventual rules compilation. Plus, I mean, I like books. ;)


(PS- As a general rule, I hate additional splat books for just this reason. But, at some point, one additional book that had all the various rules plus some cool stuff wouldn't be so bad.)
 

Staffan

Explorer
I agree with [MENTION=6799753]lowkey13[/MENTION] about spreading the books. I use a 33 inch 8 pocket luggage to haul my stuff. Another "core" book and I going have just start carry the basics of what I running that night.
That's what made me go for D&D Beyond.
 

MNblockhead

A Title Much Cooler Than Anything on the Old Site
Also, keep in mind that the ship rules are NOT spread out. You have the basic rules needed to run nautical adventures in the PHB and DMG. The rules in the appendix of Saltmarsh are extra, expanded rules. Just like all the downtime, racial feats, and tool proficiency, etc. rules in Xanathars are some extra crunch for those who want it. You can still play D&D just fine with the PHB & DMG.

Personally, I get more upset by trying to work in errata. But because of D&D Beyond, I always have the most up to date, corrected, rules content. I don't have to buy multiple printings of the same book.
 

gyor

Adventurer
Ok, It sounds like chapter 1 fluff and Saltmarsh city information. Hopefully more info than what Waterdeep Heist gave us. Chapter 2-8 adventures. Appendix A the Ship rules. Appendix b magic items Appendix C. Monsters.
Hopefully they take a page from Waterdeep heist "Volo’s Waterdeep Enchiridion ". And just sell the Ship rules on DM's Guild.
This is a great idea, I might buy a PDF of that. Of course I already have ship rules from Stronghold and Followers.
 

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