Miniature scale creep is out of control!!!!!

Flexor the Mighty!

18/100 Strength!
Its madness!!!

At this point is Reaper 32mm in all but name? The newer guys I've bought were so big they really don't fit in with real 28mm stuff. And my 25mm stuff is pretty much only useful for hobbits. Using my Perry and Crusader historical stuff looks so off as they are more realisticlly proportioned and honest 28mm scale. But I appreciate that the D&D minis out now are not nutty big. Of course they also look tiny compared to the Reaper stuff.

Tips for good manufacturers for honest 28mm fantasy figures for PC types in metal?

Bummer than I'm writing of Reaper for things other than monsters.


Ok, needed to vent.

whew.
 
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Immortal Sun

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I'd also like to know if there are any good "general fantasy" mini makers who use metal. Seems like everywhere I turn everyone's turning plastic.
 

pogre

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I'd also like to know if there are any good "general fantasy" mini makers who use metal. Seems like everywhere I turn everyone's turning plastic.
https://eoeorbis.com/ Black Tree Design Texas and U.K.

https://www.warmongerminiatures.com/ Fantasy Arm of Wargames Foundry U.K.

Great source for Otherworld Miniatures and Frostgrave miniatures stateside is https://www.badgergames.com/home.html

Red box games - lots of old school style metal figures http://red-box-games.com/

Dark Sword miniatures make a lot of fantastic character figures. https://www.darkswordminiatures.com/

Lots of metal figures out there - you just have to dig a little more these days.

edit: BTW, I have ordered from all of these places and I have been satisfied with their service.
 
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dave2008

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https://eoeorbis.com/ Black Tree Design Texas and U.K.

https://www.warmongerminiatures.com/ Fantasy Arm of Wargames Foundry U.K.

Great source for Otherworld Miniatures and Frostgrave miniatures stateside is https://www.badgergames.com/home.html

Red box games - lots of old school style metal figures http://red-box-games.com/

Dark Sword miniatures make a lot of fantastic character figures. https://www.darkswordminiatures.com/

Lots of metal figures out there - you just have to dig a little more these days.

edit: BTW, I have ordered from all of these places and I have been satisfied with their service.
Thanks for the links - the are helpful.
 
I was becoming aware of this issue in the early 90's when 28mm started replacing the 25mm standard for fantasy minis. Once size creep begins, forever will it dominate your destiny.,
 

pogre

Adventurer
I feel like GW led the way on scale creep. Look at a skaven from 1989 versus one from 2004 to one today. It is amazing the size difference. Line them up and it looks like a graphic for a Skaven life cycle! ;)
 

Flexor the Mighty!

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Isn't the new Age of Signmar actually listed as 32mm now? When using 28mm 3d terrain these huge minis just don't work. At GaryCon I was playing Chainmail with 40mm figs and at first I had to make sure they weren't Reaper....

Thankfully Otherworld is still solid 28mm for figs. Just wish I could get them at the local store, but then again the local shops really only carry Bones these days which I don't use for PC models so its internet ordering in any event.
 
Isn't the new Age of Signmar actually listed as 32mm now? When using 28mm 3d terrain these huge minis just don't work. At GaryCon I was playing Chainmail with 40mm figs and at first I had to make sure they weren't Reaper....

Thankfully Otherworld is still solid 28mm for figs. Just wish I could get them at the local store, but then again the local shops really only carry Bones these days which I don't use for PC models so its internet ordering in any event.
Wargames Foundry produces quite a few ranges of 28mm figures. A lot of the historicals work well in fantasy games too.
 

wefeleb

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A new[old] miniature manufacturer is Iron Wind Metals, formerly Ral Partha. They still have many older sculpts that are close to true 25mm scale, and still pretty affordable relative to most metal & plastics today.
 

MNblockhead

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It is [MENTION=6588]pogre[/MENTION]'s fault. :)

Well, okay, it is the fault of miniature painting hobby. As folks became better at miniature painting and they wanted more detailed sculpts. Larger minis are easier to paint and appreciate a good paint job.

And Games Workshop seems to be the ones to really push this with their Warhammer line. At least that's what I remember from the 80s when the Warhammer stuff just blew everyone else out of the water, the magazines had great painting tutorials, and their fans spent crazy amounts of money and time making some fabulous looking armies.

As much as I love miniatures and would like to relearn to paint them, I just don't have the time these days. I mostly use 2D paper miniatures, which scale noticeably larger than 25mm scale. But I'm not going for realism. As long as I can accurately determine distance and range for DnD 5e purposes, I don't worry too much about proper scale.

Saves money when you can buy buckets of plastic monsters from Amazon or cut out 2D paper minis.
 
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Thanks! I live in the PNW, but I haven't been able to find anyone stocking the line locally.

I'm still a little nervous buying things on-line, strangely enough. I really like looking at and holding the product before I buy it.

This will also be good for calibrating my expectations on scale with my 3D printer as far as cavalry goes. The cavalry that I've put together just doesn't look quite right.
 

pogre

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Thanks! I live in the PNW, but I haven't been able to find anyone stocking the line locally.

I'm still a little nervous buying things on-line, strangely enough. I really like looking at and holding the product before I buy it.

This will also be good for calibrating my expectations on scale with my 3D printer as far as cavalry goes. The cavalry that I've put together just doesn't look quite right.
I do not know if this is reassuring to you, but I have ordered from Noble Knight online several times and it has always been great.

I have not ordered online from Michigan Toy for many, many years. Nice guys though - I usually buy a ton of stuff from them at Adepticon.

If you have a decent FLGS, they should be able to order the product line through Stevens International hobby distributors.
 
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