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Which brings up the following concerns that I have regarding moderation, well, two really. The first is that I was unaware that any of you three were going to be going through my old posts (or is old posts in general) to moderate them. The second is that, quite frankly, if that post is "jackassery" that should get me booted, then I will either be booted shortly for my old posts, I will be booted shortly for my new posts. I want to be clear that I am not arguing with moderation, I am just making an observation.
There is a big difference between when I'm being sarcastic because I'm angry, and when I'm just kidding. I own up to my angry sarcasm, and this wasn't it.
I don't think I should have to explain all my tropes, all the time. But the reason I use 2e (for example) is because most people understand instinctively that it is a joke.
If you feel that's necessary, sure. You do you.
I think there is some irony there that everyone else is supposed to have a thik skin and realize that you only hae the best of intentions, but one moderator pointing a thing out has you going off in a huff. Maybe you'd like to look at the asymmetry of that.
Or not. As I said, you do you.
For the record, this is exactly the case.I would guess that someone was reading an old thread and reported it rather than staff going through your posts.
Point of fact, I was the Mod whose action is in question here, not Umbran.Dude, you threatened him with being booted; that's hardly "pointing a thing out". You've got a pretty heavy hand as a moderator, and considering the way you also actively wade into controversial topics as a poster and take sides (usually on the side I agree with, but that's neither here nor there), I'm not sure you're really being very fair here. If I were Morrus, I would ask you to either moderate with a lighter touch (e.g. admonish people less harshly), or stop being such an active and opinionated poster. The fact that you do both really gives the impression of a lack of fairness, no matter how pure your true intentions might be. But whatever. You do you do, man.
For the record, this is exactly the case.
I've always thought that the long term peace of the boards would be improved if people who report people much more often than others were banned.
What I said was “Jackassery?”, but it remains a fair point.It's worth pointing out that if you're asking posters to model more civil and respectful behavior, calling them "jackasses" seems like exactly the wrong foot to start off with.
I recently praised a moderator for being civil and respectful while correcting me-- when I was angry and clearly out of line-- and well... if you want a polite and friendly forum, it starts from the top. Being rude, snarky, and dismissive when you're asking posters to stop being rude, snarky, and dismissive undermines both the purpose of the admonition, and your moral authority in all future interactions.
I'd suggest people check out RPG.net for a perfect example of this, but I don't want to give them the traffic.
Dude, you threatened him with being booted;
What I said was “Jackassery?”, but it remains a fair point.
I’m not just a Mod, I’m a trained mediator. I know better. But I’m human.It's a mild criticism, something to be aware of. I was a forum moderator-- and a damned good one-- on an American political forum for over a decade, covering three Presidential elections before I went insane-- for unrelated reasons-- and had to step down because I couldn't enforce rules that I couldn't follow.
I've seen how easy it is to get frustrated with repeated offenders and habitual boundary pushers, and how easy it is to start treating them how they deserve instead of how the rest of the forum deserves-- I ain't implying nothing 'bout noone here-- and how easily that filters into every staff interaction with posters and the forum culture as a whole.
I haven't had a real complaint about moderation on EN World in fifteen years. I'm not starting now, and I'm only speaking up in the hopes of not having to start in the future.