Mongoose doing Star Trek d20?

[qstor]

Because they're not TSR, it takes money to publish it, and it was bad timing (busy promoting the new D&D Third Edition).

I'd wish they released all of the material back to the author, like they did with Spacedock & Ship Recognition Manual series (written by Steve Long) and made available on the Trek-RPG.net web site. At one point, MnM guru Steve Kenson posted an excerpt of his drafted Klingon supplement (unpublished) as well as a Cardassian supplement (also unpublished) for LUGTrek.

Yeah, I liked the material that Steve posted. The Dominion War supplement is available on the web in .pdf. Thats pretty good. What ticks me off is that Decipher never released a Klingon book. The FASA book is nice but doesn't have all the new material on the Klingons that came out with the TNG and Deep Space Nine.

I'm a big Trek RPG fan, I have the Decipher, FASA and LUG game versions

Mike

 

[Ranger REG]

Yeah, I liked the material that Steve posted. The Dominion War supplement is available on the web in .pdf. Thats pretty good. What ticks me off is that Decipher never released a Klingon book.

I know. That was like Strike Two (the First Strike is credited to LUG).[/QUOTE]

Anyhoo, check out the Trek-RPG.net web site and forum. It is now under new management.

 

[woodelf]

Because they're not TSR, it takes money to publish it, and it was bad timing (busy promoting the new D&D Third Edition).

Obviously. But, as much as any RPG book makes money, i'd expect a Star Trek mirror universe supplement to be near the top of the list. And given that, as i understand it, the book was already written and paid for, they may as well print and sell it and recoup their investment (which, obviously, was just rolled into the purchase cost for LUG). Unless they knew something i don't that means it wouldn't have sold. But, like i said, i really doubt that; LUGTrek was pretty popular.

I'd wish they released all of the material back to the author, like they did with Spacedock & Ship Recognition Manual series (written by Steve Long) and made available on the Trek-RPG.net web site.

That would've been good enough, too. I guess what really irked me is that sitting on finished manuscripts for highly-anticipated almost-guaranteed-moneymakers smacked of spite--spiting Paramount for yanking the license by not making Paramount any more money in the meantime. But the fans're the ones that didn't get the cool stuff. To be clear, i'm not saying that's what WotC did, or that those were the motives if they did. It just seemed that way to me at the time.

 

[Ranger REG]

That would've been good enough, too. I guess what really irked me is that sitting on finished manuscripts for highly-anticipated almost-guaranteed-moneymakers smacked of spite--spiting Paramount for yanking the license by not making Paramount any more money in the meantime. But the fans're the ones that didn't get the cool stuff. To be clear, i'm not saying that's what WotC did, or that those were the motives if they did. It just seemed that way to me at the time.

I don't think they squatted on it just to spite Paramount -- although if that's the case, then I'd support them anyway since Paramount made stoopid choices, including keeping Berman and Braga running the Trek franchise -- they just don't see it prudent to release those supplementary material that they're not going to support in the long run. Had it been one of them core rulebooks, I'd understand. They could have released ... heeheehee ... a VOYAGER Core Rulebook.

Sorry, but I don't dwell with the "woulda, coulda, shoulda" regarding WotC's brief hold on LUG's license to publish Star Trek RPG. I kinda blame Paramount for not giving WotC the chance to counter-bid or counter-offer against Decipher's proposal.

In a perfect world, WotC didn't have to layoff a lot of people during Winter 2000-2001; WotC South still exist in LA, designing non-D&D RPG products; and I'd have to deal with anti-d20 critics who think WotC ruined Star Trek for them.

 

[Krieg]

It would be nice if they'd say something...anything, about the LotR license this year. It's pretty frustrating to watch them keep mum on the matter. They keep the license, get to profit from the cards, and don't bother doing anything with the RPG. Not very impressive.

Banshee

*Throws Banshee a bone*

http://www.decipher.com/content/2005/01/010705lotrrpg2005.html

Now I'd be willing to bet they're just clearing out the products that are ready to go to print and that will be the end of it...but it is still better than nothing.

Yeah, I wound up picking one of these books up, as a friend wanted to run it...him being a huge Dune freak and all. Then he had to move to NY (family problems) and I have never played it. Barely cracked opened the covers, really.

Sgih, yet one more book i bought that will never see real table time.

You could always sell it on eBay for $100-$150 or so.

 

[Gez]

Not to burst all the conspiracy-theory bubbles out there, but... Is Mongoose really [owning/part of/known as] Diamond Comic Distributors?

# Unknown Binding: 300 pages
# Publisher: Diamond Comic Distributors, Inc. (June, 2005)
# ISBN: 1905176139|=​

 

[woodelf]

In a perfect world, WotC didn't have to layoff a lot of people during Winter 2000-2001; WotC South still exist in LA, designing non-D&D RPG products; and I'd have to deal with anti-d20 critics who think WotC ruined Star Trek for them.

No, in a perfect world, WotC never woulda bought LUG, LUG would've retained the Dune and 'Trek licenses and gotten the Buffy/Angel license that they were widely rumored as being in the closing stages of negotiation for, and these would've been enough to bankroll into the Aria 2nd ed and Heresy RPGs.

 

[jaerdaph]

No, in a perfect world, WotC never woulda bought LUG, LUG would've retained the Dune and 'Trek licenses and gotten the Buffy/Angel license that they were widely rumored as being in the closing stages of negotiation for, and these would've been enough to bankroll into the Aria 2nd ed and Heresy RPGs.

I could have lived with that. I miss LUG Trek.

I passed on Decipher CODA. Glad I did now, too.

I guess the moral of the story is, "DO THE KLINGON SUPPLEMENT FIRST!"

 

[Scribe Ineti]

Now: Decipher RPG studio is reduced to two people, big names like Steve Long, Kenneth Hite, and Christian Moore have left (as in no longer employees of Decipher, just contracting freelanced writers).

To the best of my knowledge, the entire RPG studio was dumped last January. I'm not sure which two people you think are left...?

 

[Dragonblade]

Not to burst all the conspiracy-theory bubbles out there, but... Is Mongoose really [owning/part of/known as] Diamond Comic Distributors?

# Unknown Binding: 300 pages
# Publisher: Diamond Comic Distributors, Inc. (June, 2005)
# ISBN: 1905176139|=​

It was only changed to Diamond in the past day or two. When I started the thread, the publisher was in fact listed as Mongoose Publishing.

Diamond Comics isn't even a publisher, they are a wholesale distributor for retail stores.