D&D 5E Monk with Q-Staff -- why not?

[James Metcalfe]

not really the rules, but okay.
I want to know however if using a spear of staff two handed allows you to continue using it as monk weapon. i assume not, as they cannot be two handed weapons

 

[S'mon]

not really the rules, but okay.
I want to know however if using a spear of staff two handed allows you to continue using it as monk weapon. i assume not, as they cannot be two handed weapons

I think you're misreading it - it says "shortswords and any simple melee weapons that don't have the two-handed or heavy property" - quarterstaffs do not have the two-handed property (PHB pg 149) as they are Versatile and can be used either one or two-handed. pg 147 definition of Two-Handed "requires two hands when you attack with it" - this is different from and exclusive of Versatile.

#RulesLawyersFTW

 

[Hriston]

It is not a monk weapon, due to it being two handed though?
surely the moment you use it two handed, you cant use it as a monk weapon.

not really the rules, but okay.
I want to know however if using a spear of staff two handed allows you to continue using it as monk weapon. i assume not, as they cannot be two handed weapons

Two-handed is a property that certain weapons have. If a weapon has this property, it cannot be a monk weapon. Neither spears nor quarterstaffs have this property, however, so they both qualify as monk weapons because they are both simple weapons that don't have the two-handed or heavy property. The property that allows spears and quarterstaffs to be wielded with two hands is the versatile property, which doesn't affect their inclusion in monk weapons.

 

[BookBarbarian]

It is not a monk weapon, due to it being two handed though?
surely the moment you use it two handed, you cant use it as a monk weapon.

Greetings thread necromancer.

Regardless of how many hands are on the quarterstaff it does not have the "Two-Handed" property. It has the "Versatile" property. So monk weapon away.

 

[The Annihilargh]

Unless you've got the Two-Weapon Fighting Fighting Style, you won't be adding your ability modifier to the off-hand attack of the quarterstaff.

You can't even make an off-hand attack with a quarterstaff until you have the Dual Wielder feat, as quarterstaffs aren't light. And the Polearm Master feat just says that you can make a melee weapon attack with a "glaive, halberd, quarterstaff, or spear," (provided that was the only weapon you used in your main attack action) as a bonus action—with its damage die being d4 bludgeoning and its attack using the same ability modifier as your main attack. Rules as written, as a monk with the Polearm Master feat, your bonus action melee attack damage die (if you're using a quarterstaff or spear) can be replaced with your Martial Arts die "in place of the normal damage of your unarmed strike or monk weapon" (Bullet point #3 of the Martial Arts section).

 

[The Annihilargh]

Nevermind, tbh the only benefit you get with Polearm master is the chance of using your weapon if it's magical and getting AOP when enemies enter your reach

 

[The Annihilargh]

Greetings thread necromancer.

Regardless of how many hands are on the quarterstaff it does not have the "Two-Handed" property. It has the "Versatile" property. So monk weapon away.

Well, there is the part that said the Two-Handed property "is relevant only when you attack with the weapon, not when you simply hold it"
So it would be confusing because it could be interpreted as an "either-or" situation in regard to hand number