Monster Immunities

[Renaissance Man]

Lernaean hydra - am I reading this right? Vulnerable only to slashing attacks and specific spells? (Disintegrate, finger of death, slay living. ) Do they take damage from environmental dangers, i.e., extreme cold, falling damage, etc.? If so, does that damage result in the loss of one or more heads (and subsequently generate new heads), as with other attack forms to which it is vulnerable?

Golems - immune to magic, but are they immune to the effects that certain spells have on their environment? Reverse gravity for instance - it doesn't target the golem directly, it alters the laws of physics within a given area. Would the golem be susceptible to the effects?

 

[BMF]

The golem would be affected by the reverse gravity.

Lernaean hydra - am I reading this right?

That's what my MM says too. funny, huh???

 

[dkilgo]

Yeah, wierd! I will have to look into that.

 

[kreynolds]

Golems - immune to magic, but are they immune to the effects that certain spells have on their environment? Reverse gravity for instance - it doesn't target the golem directly, it alters the laws of physics within a given area. Would the golem be susceptible to the effects?

They are immune to magic/spells that are effected by SR. A Golem can be Mazed, for example.

 

[maddman75]

Re: Re: Monster Immunities

They are immune to magic/spells that are effected by SR. A Golem can be Mazed, for example.

You sure about that? I took a look at the SRD and didn't see anything to that effect.....

 

[Renaissance Man]

Re: Re: Re: Monster Immunities

You sure about that? I took a look at the SRD and didn't see anything to that effect.....

Agreed... but an interesting interpretation, nonetheless. Glancing through the spell descriptions in the PHB, it seems to hold water, too...

 

[dkilgo]

Will have to agree with kreynolds on the golem, but not qutie sure about the hydra. Will keep looking.

 

[kreynolds]

Re: Re: Re: Monster Immunities

You sure about that?

Yep. From the FAQ...

&nbsp&nbsp&nbspCan I use spell immunity to make myself immune to the
detect magic spell? How about other spells such as see
invisibility or dispel magic?
&nbsp&nbsp&nbspNo. Spell immunity gives the subject an unbeatable SR
against the specified spell. Since none of the spells named here
are subject to spell resistance, spell immunity is useless against
them.

...and from a Sage reply...

Hello there, we were having a discussion on the boards about how the various spell immunities and we are confused about exactly how a Golem's spell immunity does work.

Think of it as unbeatable SR.

It is clear from the spell that the spell is treated as infinite/unbeatable SR against the warded spells, but the golem description seems to indicate that it might be different.

No, that's right.

So, is a golem's spell immunity unbeatable SR, or is it just immune to all spells?
If the former, can I assume that is it affected by a Maze spell?

Yup (Maze is SR: No; you build a maze around the golem).

What about the fire from a wall of fire?

Wall of fire is SR: Yes, so the golem is immune. Note fire has special effects on some golems

If the latter, what about things like Greater Magic Weapon, Rock to Mud cast under them, etc?

If the SR entry is "no" the golem does not ignore the spell's effects.

The text on the Anti-magic field seems to indicate that some spells that aren't listed under their description can affect them, but we're not sure what.

See previous answers (and your own excellent judgement).

 

[Renaissance Man]

Wow! Thanks, kreynolds!

 

[kreynolds]

Wow! Thanks, kreynolds!

Is not a problem, commrade.