D&D (2024) Monster Manual 2025 Elementals

[Kobold Avenger]

 

[Kobold Avenger]

The Elemental Cataclysm is directly connected to the Elemental Chaos, sample appearance is sort of like Tiamat but has heads that suggest a connection to the Phoenix, Elder Tempest, Leviathan and Zaratan.

 

[Hexmage-EN]

I wish there were more weirdo elementals like the Xorn, but what we're getting here looks neat! I'm curious to see the Elemental Cataclysm's statblock to see if it could serve as a good stand-in for the 4E primordials.

 

[Kobold Avenger]

It's interesting they don't bring up the Xaren, even though that was just an "Advanced Xorn" except it came from the Quasi-elemental plane of Minerals (which I know isn't really in 5e cosmology).

 

[the Jester]

It's interesting they don't bring up the Xaren, even though that was just an "Advanced Xorn" except it came from the Quasi-elemental plane of Minerals (which I know isn't really in 5e cosmology).

It damn well is in my 5e cosmology!

 

[pukunui]

I'm curious to see the Elemental Cataclysm's statblock to see if it could serve as a good stand-in for the 4E primordials.

Maybe? I mean, we've already got stats for Maegera the Dawn Titan in Storm King's Thunder, so there's that. Maegera is a CR 23 fire-based gargantuan elemental.

The elemental cataclysm is a CR 22 gargantuan elemental that has abilities tied to all four main elements (air, earth, fire, and water).

I suspect Maegera would need some retuning for the revised rules.

Here's a quick comparison:

	Maegera	Elemental Cataclysm
AC	16	20
HP	341 (22d20 + 110)	370 (20d20 + 160)
Speed	50 ft.	60 ft., Burrow 60 ft., Fly 80 ft. (hover), Swim 80 ft.
Ability Scores	Str 21 Dex 22 Con 20 Int 10 Wis 10 Cha 19	Str 26 Dex 19 Con 27 Int 9 Wis 14 Cha 9
Saves	Con +12, Wis +7, Cha +11	n/a
Resistances	bludgeoning, piercing, and slashing damage from nonmagical attacks	n/a
Immunities	fire, poison; charmed, frightened, grappled, paralyzed, petrified, poisoned, prone, restrained	Acid, Cold, Fire, Lightning, Poison, Thunder; Blinded, Charmed, Deafened, Exhaustion, Frightened, Grappled, Paralyzed, Petrified, Poisoned, Prone, Restrained, Stunned, Unconscious
Senses	blindsight 120 ft.	Truesight 150 ft
CR	23	22
Traits	Empowered Attacks, Fire Aura, Fire Form, Illumination, Magic Resistance	Earth Glide, Legendary Resistance (4/Day), Siege Monster
Attacks	Multiattack (3 x Slam), Slam (+12 to hit, 15 bludg + 35 fire), cast Fireball (DC 19) at will	Multiattack (2 x Elemental Burst), Elemental Burst (+15 to hit, 25 variable dmg), Cataclysmic Event (Recharge 4-5; 1d4 random effects), cast Control Weather at will
Legendary Actions	Quench Magic, Smoke Cloud, Create Fire Elemental	Eruption, Rumbling Movement

 

[Kobold Avenger]

It damn well is in my 5e cosmology!

I'd have them all there, I still conceptually see the Negative and Positive Energy Planes attached to the Inner Planes, as much as they say it's connected to the Outer Planes instead.

And still use the idea mentioned by designers, but never stated in the books that Feywild is between the Material and Positive and Shadowfell is between the Material and Negative.

 

[Kobold Avenger]

Anyways I like the idea that a Xorn might want to eat a Galeb Dur because they're delicious.

 

[Parmandur]

Interesting that they didn't say much about Genies.

 

[Shardstone]

Elemental Cataclysm damage is weirdly low compared to other high cr creatures in the book. Any ideas why?