Monster Manual: How Much Cut?

[zoroaster100]

I really like using vermin, animals and dire animals in my game, so I certainly hope they don't get cut. Though it certainly seems like they might take a lot less space with the new rules.

 

[JoeGKushner]

It's entirely possible that this will be made of lots of 'win'.

For example, the cyclops is supposed to be in the MM. Good deal there.

 

[ZombieRoboNinja]

Well, hrm. Anyone feel like doing math?

-How many monsters in the 3.5 PHB1?
-How many pages in the 4e MM?
-How many do we think will be filled with rules, guidelines, etc?
-Assuming 2 pages per monster category (to account for devils, dragons, and other multi-pagers), how many monsters are there room for?

I'm guessing 100 monster entries is a decent estimate. (But most of those entries would get multiple actual monsters: the "goblin" entry would have Goblin Archers, Goblin Backstabbers, etc.)

 

[Ipissimus]

If you havent heard. every monster gets one or 2 pages in the MM. that way no monster entry starts in the middle of a page.

Woah... anyone else have a 2e flashback?

 

[Majoru Oakheart]

I'm guessing 100 monster entries is a decent estimate. (But most of those entries would get multiple actual monsters: the "goblin" entry would have Goblin Archers, Goblin Backstabbers, etc.)

A designer posted a while back that in the 288 pages in the MM, there would be over 300 monsters.

 

[Steely Dan]

For example, the cyclops is supposed to be in the MM. Good deal there.

And it's Fey!

…Odd.

 

[Ruin Explorer]

Woah... anyone else have a 2e flashback?

The 2E MC, the hardback one that came out in the early '90s, was the single best monster book for any game, that I've ever come across. So if they can replicate the feel of that instead of the horrible messy and claustrophobic 3E MMs (MM1 at least), I'll be very happy.

I just really pray that the 4E books in general are designed by someone with a stronger aesthetic sense than the 3E ones (and have a lot less red and yellow everywhere).

 

[Suudo]

Personally, I love using dinosaurs.

I don't really care about everything else. I mean, I don't care what they put in or what they leave out. I'll use what they give me to best effect and just make for myself anything else I need.

I figure: It's a different game. It's going to look different. Cool.

If my dragonborn warlord doesn't get to whomp on some 3.5 baddies, that's okay. There'll be plenty of 4e baddies to whomp on instead.

 

[rkanodia]

And it's Fey!

…Odd.

Not quite sure why, but making cyclopses(?) Fey somehow clicks for me, even though the cyclops is from Greek myth and the Feywild is more of a Northern European folktale sort of thing.

 

[Steely Dan]

Not quite sure why, but making cyclopses(?) Fey somehow clicks for me

Funnily enough, me too.

I think it has something to do with their relationship to formorians.