"Monte Cook Presents" Iron Heroes?

[gobber]

Perhaps I merely have already used a subtle method of gaining revenge. Yes, it's true. I was the Best Buy manager who denied Monte his refund. It took the deaths of a 100 strong men and two sex change operations, but my flame of vengeance burns brightly.

Oh yes it does.

That wasn't a denial!

 

[gobber]

Let's leave the politics elsewhere, please.

Thanks.

-Henry

 

[AdmundfortGeographer]

Because being humble makes you a non-pretentious jerk and thus you're likely to survive when the proletariat rises up. Or something.

Or that it shows you have the slightest sliver of gratitude or graciousness. But that would be Orwellian...

 

[Felon]

Because being humble makes you a non-pretentious jerk and thus you're likely to survive when the proletariat rises up. Or something.

So being humble makes you a jerk (albeit a non-pretentious one)? Hey, I think we've found common ground.

Or that it shows you have the slightest sliver of gratitude or graciousness. But that would be Orwellian...

EDIT--Something bad and weak is idealized as good and heroic. The 1984 reference is pretty clear. Get over it.

 

[Captain Tagon]

Or that it shows you have the slightest sliver of gratitude or graciousness. But that would be Orwellian...

Yeah. But that's actual truth and not sarcasm. ::shrug::

 

[Captain Tagon]

Something bad and weak is revered as good and heroic. That's Orwellian. Get over it.

I'm letting it go. And I'm genuinely sorry you don't get the concept. Have fun at the center of your own universe.

 

[Felon]

I'm letting it go. And I'm genuinely sorry you don't get the concept. Have fun at the center of your own universe.

Actually, Cap, you're posting and re-posting on the topic, which is sort of the opposite of letting it go. But that's not Orwellian, it's just...well, damn amusing is what it is.

(but I have edited the text you quoted to provide additional clarity for you proud defenders of all things semantic)

 

[AdmundfortGeographer]

EDIT--Something bad and weak is idealized as good and heroic. The 1984 reference is pretty clear. Get over it.

And arrogance and hubris, the opposite of humility, becomes good and heroic in its stead? ... oookaay... 1984 indeed.

 

[John Q. Mayhem]

humility

n 1: a disposition to be humble; a lack of false pride; "not everyone regards humility as a virtue"

hum·ble
adj. hum·bler, hum·blest
1: Marked by meekness or modesty in behavior, attitude, or spirit; not arrogant or prideful.
2: Showing deferential or submissive respect: a humble apology.

The things I've been thinking of as "humility" are more the "lack of false pride," "modesty in behavior, attitude, or spirit," and "showing deferential respect." There's a huge difference between a lack of false pride (humility) and lack of deserved pride (which seems to be what felon dislikes).

That's all I have to say on't.


Also, I'm fine with IH's title. Seems accurate and will likely be good for the product's sales.

 

[Campbell]

And arrogance and hubris, the opposite of humility, becomes good and heroic in its stead? ... oookaay... 1984 indeed.

No. If humility is not a virtue, it does not necessarily follow that arrogance is a virtue. It is entirely possible that a proper understanding and presentation of one's level of competence is the most virtuous course of action. In other words, 'It ain't bragging if you back it up'. This notion that expressing any form of confidence in your abilities amounts to arrogance is crap. I said it. Crap.