Mostly great, but . . . rounds per day?

[Synchronicity]

I was just thinking - in the 90s, bards would have been a walking Discman. In the 80s, a walking Walkman!

Heh. The first word that came to mind was Walkman, but I decided to go for something a little more current to show that I'm 'down with the kids.'

....What?

 

[jaerdaph]

Heh. The first word that came to mind was Walkman, but I decided to go for something a little more current to show that I'm 'down with the kids.'

....What?

We're not old - we're just ol' skool!

 

[kitsune9]

Rage was 3+ con rounds before in 3.5 at 1st level, now it is 4+ con at 1st in PF.

at 4th it was 6+ conx2 in 3.5 versus PF 10+ Con.

Every four levels the 3.5 barbarian got 3+ con versus the pathfinder one getting 8 rounds.

Extra rage used to give 2 or 3 extra rages per day (depending on what WotC or OGC source you used) which was 6+ 2Con or 9 +3Con rounds long versus pathfinder's 6 extra rounds.

3.5 also had a non core extended rage feat which would be duplicative of PFs extra rage.

Most levels and con ranges the PF barbarian gets more rounds with a smoother progression and not short changed in lost rage rounds.

3.5 ones with big cons gain an edge in certain level ranges and get more benefits from feats like extra rage and the (not available in PF) extended rage.

Voadam, thanks for the math map-out on the barbarian! I like these posts where we can get a comparison of how system X vs. Y did things.

 

[Voadam]

in my experience, barbarians would never rage in 3.5 because they were afraid it would be too soon. Now they rage left and right. I like the feel of it better

I hate X/day mechanics in general. I particularly hate 1/day powers. I played a bunch of 3e barbarians. I always took extra rage and raged at the drop of a hat.

 

[Hunter In Darkness]

But that costed you a feat for the same ability they can now do. I love the new rage

 

[Doodles]

I like the mechanic personally.

Points/rounds, Rounds/day, both are fine by me, actually.

 

[Turtlejay]

As far as math fiddly bits go, melee characters (counterintuitively) have always had the tougher math in 3.5. Power attack, 1.5x str for 2 handers, then get buffed/enlarged, oh, wait it was dispelled. . .

It is just another bit of math.

Jay

 

[kitsune9]

I like the mechanic personally.

Points/rounds, Rounds/day, both are fine by me, actually.

I like the points thing myself, however, I'm cool with trying out the rounds/day too as I'd like to see how it plays out.