Mottul Marches on Fina's Lands

Hey folks ... sorry I've been such a slacker about posting.

As I was thinking about the two plans, it seems the best approach would be to combine the two. Why not set up Castelleon to be ready to board the MFF ... and a little before the boarding, the party uses the portal to get into the MFF (from Mottul) and try to disrupt as much of the MFF as possible to make the boarding more successful?

Princep, Leonus, and Gel are all Pathfinders ... Princep has a ton of skill levels in Portal Knowledge and will do whatever he can to determine how the portal on the MFF is working ... it sounds like from the interrogation we can assume this, but it might not be a bad idea to have some of the kickass fighters on Castelleon just in case we aren't successful via the portal. Our group is potent enough to really help swing the battle and it would suck for none of us to be in the battle if the portal route fails.

As to magic and healing ... who can use healing wands? Both Leonus and Princep have a lay on hands ability ... so, we do know something of healing magic ... is that sufficient to allow us to use them? If so, that gives us two more healers. Also, Leonus is a paladin of sorts (champion of gwynyfyr) and can cast a limited number of spells.

Well, that's what I'm thinking ... sorry it's so late. What do you think of combining the two plans?

Princep
 

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I like it, in fact I'm proud to be a part of this plan! :D

Seriously though, I agree with Marc and think we should purchase everything that is available. Money is definitely not an issue. Gel cannot cast spells so she is out of luck with the wands. She can, however, use the potions.

I think combining the plans is a good idea. It's kind of like hedging our bets. In case one fails we have the other plan ready to go.

Gel thinks that we should keep the party intact and attack through the Portal. At the same time Castelleon and Mithguard attack MFF. The Castelleon and Mithguard flying fortresses could be led by the Hound Archon that oversees Mithguard (sorry I can't remember his name). We could do a one word sending to attack once we are through the Portal. If for some reason we are unsuccessful then we hightail it back and join the assault. Provided we're not dead.

Gel is going to buy a new weapon and she would like to get it silvered depending on what she can find. Leg is going to come with us (his dragon too) . Chris and I have to work out the dragon's xp and so if he goes up a level he take a level of paladin so that he can use the healing magic. He already has a sorceror level. Sweet. :p
 

One other thing I forgot to mention. Gel is a junior-level Pathfinder at best. She just doesn't have many skill points in Portal Knowledge. So Princep and Leonus are the best bet for finding out info on the Mottul portal.

Has anyone figured out what all the magic will cost us? If no one else has I'd be willing to. It'd be good practice for me. I just would like to know what that would leave us with individually because Gel is hoping to buy a better weapon.
 


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On the combined plan, if we do it without splitting the party and we don't count on the other FFs attacking then it probably can't hurt. (Although in the worst case, if they see the castles approaching and tip the MFF castle defenses like the magical internal defenses, that wouldn't be so good).

FFs move at about 10 miles per hour so it is hard to sneak the FFs up on them. Even with sending coordinating an attack where we have to gain access to a heavily guarded portal and they have to approach when both FFs move at similar speeds seems tough. One way to decouple the timing is to have our FFs try to close and harry the MFF for an extended period of time. Sometime during that period, we go through the portal and let them know we are through at which time they could step up the attack or launch a dragon assault.

So:
  • When we are a day or two away from the portal, the friendly FFs approach as close as possible and launch ooccasional harrying raids. They may need a day or two to approach depending on how cooperative the MFF is.
  • We signal that we are 10 minutes from going through the portal.
  • They launch another aerial attack timed to arrive in about 10 minutes.
  • We go through the portal.
  • We somehow signal that we are actually on the FF (another sending might work- it would be from a very different location and so will probably not interfere with the other sending).
  • Everybody attacks.
Only downside I see with that plan is that the MFF may be in a heightened state of alert or that our own FFs might be in jeopardy. On the first point, they will probably be in alert anyway. On the second point, if they can take out our two FFs, we will probably fail in any assault anyway :p

ANyway, we shouldn't count on the FFs coming in at the right time. it would be nice if it can be arranged but precise coordination can be difficult. If they are 2 minutes off in their timing, that is 20 combat rounds. For an historical reference on what can go wrong with splitting forces and elaborate plans on convergence, see the Japanese disaster in WW2 at Leyte Gulf.

Let's try it but let's also plan on doing it without their assistance. Also, we do need to be able to trigger Fina's spy. Having that spy either block the portal behind us or keep the magic defenses from triggering may be the single most important thing we could have on our side.
 

sivousplay said:
As to magic and healing ... who can use healing wands? Both Leonus and Princep have a lay on hands ability ... so, we do know something of healing magic ... is that sufficient to allow us to use them? If so, that gives us two more healers. Also, Leonus is a paladin of sorts (champion of gwynyfyr) and can cast a limited number of spells.

You need the exact spell on a spell list to use a wand. You dont have to be able to cast it yet though. So, if it is on a paladin's 4th level spell list that they get at level 12 (or whenever) a 1st level paladin could still use that wand.
 

cc22153 said:
Gel thinks that we should keep the party intact and attack through the Portal. At the same time Castelleon and Mithguard attack MFF. The Castelleon and Mithguard flying fortresses could be led by the Hound Archon that oversees Mithguard (sorry I can't remember his name). We could do a one word sending to attack once we are through the Portal. If for some reason we are unsuccessful then we hightail it back and join the assault. Provided we're not dead.

Well... I was kind of thinking we'd deactivate the portal after we went through which kind of rules it out as an escape route.

Plusses for deactivating portal:
  • Mottul can't send forces through to reinforce castle as we try to take it.
  • Mottul can't send army through for months, giving Fina some respite.
Minuses for deactiving portal:
  • We can't use it to escape. Of course, escape means returning to a no doubt alerted army of undead. So escape is relative.
  • Fina can't use it for a while to invade Mottul. But I don't think she is ready to invade.
It is a "burn the boats" kind of plan but escaping a FF isn't that hard. You just jump off and hope you don't land in a lava lake. (We all have feather fall, right?)



cc22153 said:
Gel is going to buy a new weapon and she would like to get it silvered depending on what she can find. Leg is going to come with us (his dragon too) . Chris and I have to work out the dragon's xp and so if he goes up a level he take a level of paladin so that he can use the healing magic. He already has a sorceror level. Sweet. :p

Cool! Load him up with wands. it is a great way for the dragons to help without getting killed.
 

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Since gold is not an issue, Brom would like to make his war cleavers Holy, and silvered.
 

Leonus' spell list

Leonus can be another healer ... he has cure moderate and cure serious as well as restoration on his spell list.

So, I can only re-iterate that we should buy up all the wands we can.

jim
 

Dan,

I don't know how your weapons mods work, but the ancestral relic stuff takes a day per 1,000 gp value added. SInce we only have 2 weeks, you may not have time to "holy" your weapons.

jim
 

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