Multiple Arms and Grapple


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Klaus

First Post
Xath said:
Is there a numeric bonus to your grapple check if you have more arms than your opponent?
No. But if you suck up the penalty for multiweapon fighting, you get more grapple checks.
 

mvincent

Explorer
Klaus said:
if you suck up the penalty for multiweapon fighting, you get more grapple checks.
That appears to be incorrect.

The rules say:
"You can’t attack with two weapons while grappling"

This appears to also include attacking with more than two weapons, since the Rake description says:
"Normally, a monster can attack with only one of its natural weapons while grappling"
 
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Klaus

First Post
mvincent said:
That appears to be incorrect.

The rules say:
"You can’t attack with two weapons while grappling"

This appears to also include attacking with more than two weapons, since the Rake description says:
"Normally, a monster can attack with only one of its natural weapons while grappling"
Huh. You're right. You only gain extra grapple checks via iterative attacks...
 

Hypersmurf

Moderatarrrrh...
Xath said:
Is there a numeric bonus to your grapple check if you have more arms than your opponent?

If you reverse-engineer the Xill and the Marilith, there's nothing built in to their grapple check for having extra arms.

The Girallon's Blessing spell from Savage Species makes no mention of any change to grappling when it grants extra arms, either.

-Hyp.
 

sukael

First Post
If you get your hands on the Improved Grab ability, you might be able to grapple with a single limb and leave the others free to attack normally.

(There's a feat in Draconomicon that reduces the penalty to -10, also, I think.)
 

kjenks

First Post
sukael said:
If you get your hands on the Improved Grab ability, you might be able to grapple with a single limb and leave the others free to attack normally.

Kind of.

The Improve Grab ability will let you take a -20 on your grapple check and use your other limbs to attack other opponents. It doesn't specifically allow you to attack the grappled opponent with your other limbs.
 

sukael

First Post
kjenks said:
Kind of.

The Improve Grab ability will let you take a -20 on your grapple check and use your other limbs to attack other opponents. It doesn't specifically allow you to attack the grappled opponent with your other limbs.

I'd consider the operative phrase "If it chooses to do the latter, it takes a -20 penalty on grapple checks, but is not considered grappled itself". If you're not grappled, you can effectively act normally (except for whichever BAB iteration(s) you use for the grapple).

I read "can use its remaining attacks against other opponents" as just a confirmation of this state, given that it's at the end of a sentence that basically restates the consequences of not being grappled. You can attack other creatures, sure, but that doesn't limit you to only attacking other creatures.
 

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