Multiple Weapon Buffs !?

WCrawford said:
Why? A druid doing this would be unable to attack for the first 2 rounds of combat and be using 2 of their limited spells per day.

Something I find amusing is the Staff of Oaken Battle in the Complete Divine; a staff of black oak designed to allow a druid to protect himself in the wild. It contains the Shillelagh and Spikes spells, each costing one charge.

And yet, since it's not a non-magical staff, the Shillelagh can only be cast on another weapon...

-Hyp.
 

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Hypersmurf said:
Under your most reasonable interpretation, it's now an invalid target, and the spell stops working.
Do you really want a set of rules where it's necessary to add notes like "this spell does not stop working when you cast it"?

Experiment:
A wizard changes into a dire ape and receives animal growth and nature's favor from the party druid. Then he changes into a stone giant. Does he keep the bonuses?
 
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Iku Rex said:
Experiment:
A wizard changes into a dire ape and receives animal growth and nature's favor from the party druid. Then he changes into a stone giant. Does he keep the bonuses?

Looks right.

-Hyp.
 


Iku Rex said:
Based on what?

Hmm? Based on the fact that he's a valid target for the spell when it's cast.

If you rule that someone has to remain a valid target for the duration of the spell...

... well, you end up with the posts from me and Saeviomagy in this thread :)

-Hyp.
 

Hypersmurf said:
If you rule that someone has to remain a valid target for the duration of the spell...

... well, you end up with the posts from me and Saeviomagy in this thread :)
Should he rules, in your opinion, always state exceptions explicitly? Even when they're utterly self-evident from the context?
 

Iku Rex said:
Should he rules, in your opinion, always state exceptions explicitly? Even when they're utterly self-evident from the context?
Indeed, it seems utterly self-evident to me that you can cast spikes and shillelagh on the same weapon.
 

hong said:
Indeed, it seems utterly self-evident to me that you can cast spikes and shillelagh on the same weapon.

No, no - you can cast Shillelagh and Spikes on the same weapon.

Spikes and Shillelagh doesn't work :)

-Hyp.
 

Iku Rex said:
Should he rules, in your opinion, always state exceptions explicitly? Even when they're utterly self-evident from the context?

I think the fact that it's obvious from context that a lot of spells don't require continuous polling of target validity - that it's obvious they only require a valid target at casting time - makes it most reasonable to assume it's a general rule, since it's not stated otherwise anywhere.

-Hyp.
 

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