Mutants and Masterminds (Editors Thread & OOC)

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Shalimar said:
Since Kelly didn't have a choice, its a fair assumption that she's in the wrong place. She could explain the conversation away as just being with her date and he was there to meet Pantheon, she didn't even know thats who they were going to meet, and she certainly has reason to be frightened of Pantheon, well if she choose to explain it as such.

Just becasue someone doesn't lead with their fists it doesn't make them a non-superhero. I don't think she could have taken on all 4 of them by herself, so the mouth won out and she talked, not that fighting occured to her. There is something about a guy that has nice manners and acts all proper and gentlemanly that girls like, and Kelly isn't immune to that. I think its part of the myth of Prince Charming.

Don't worry about it. We all know Ryan is the stupid one; that's how he got his powers. It's perfectly reasonable not to want to attack when outnumbered 4 to one and outclassed powerwise.

However, when the JE started attacking, it seemed that Kelly chose a rather ineffective way to contribute. The building's sprinkler system (if it has one) could do the same thing.
 

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It's not a matter of being stupid like Ryan or Kal and leading with your fists. Kelly handled her first encounter with Pantheon pretty well-except that now she wants them to escape, and is prepared to help them with AoE snares. Of course, it does make sense that Kelly wouldn't exactly be against Pantheon, in some ways. There's also Neuro's long lasting Mind control.

Heh. Ryan did get his powers from being stupid. Funny, but so true.

Why bother with Protection? It doesn't stack with your super high Ref/Dmg save bonus with evasion from Superspeed. One of Mark's problems was his inability to hit. You could probably assume the assassin had Super Dex, and a Taunt could have worked, but it would be risky. Another power that hoses Martial artists and increases Mark's offensive abilities is Energy Field.
 

Victim said:
Don't worry about it. We all know Ryan is the stupid one; that's how he got his powers. It's perfectly reasonable not to want to attack when outnumbered 4 to one and outclassed powerwise.

However, when the JE started attacking, it seemed that Kelly chose a rather ineffective way to contribute. The building's sprinkler system (if it has one) could do the same thing.
Noticed that huh? I am sure that she is going to get on Ryan's :):):):)-list sooner or later. She just doesn't hate any of the living Pantheon members. Whether that is because she has always felt superior to others, or because of Neuro, she just doesn't and she can identify with them.

I actually didn't think of the sprinklers, but even if I had, she would have done the same thing, she just doesn't want to hurt them. It was also an excuse not to hit them with lightning, I mean if they are soaked and in a puddle of water that stretches the entire room hitting them with lightning will fry everyone touching the water.
 

Shalimar said:
Noticed that huh? I am sure that she is going to get on Ryan's :):):):)-list sooner or later. She just doesn't hate any of the living Pantheon members. Whether that is because she has always felt superior to others, or because of Neuro, she just doesn't and she can identify with them.

Hey, I don't blame you for how you handeled it at all. Heck, Anika would have done the same thing and she's in Legacy. She doesn't think what Pantheon stands for is bad, it's what they do to promote it. So she'd help kick their butts if they were "terrorizing", but take them out while they're sitting in a bar? In her mind, that would make JE not much better than Pantheon. I'm glad she wasn't there, she might have had to rethink the whole Legacy thing...

As it is, the news is reporting that it's a terrorist attack and that JE are trying to stop them, so ignorance is bliss. Gotta love the media.
 

Hammerhead said:
Why bother with Protection? It doesn't stack with your super high Ref/Dmg save bonus with evasion from Superspeed. One of Mark's problems was his inability to hit. You could probably assume the assassin had Super Dex, and a Taunt could have worked, but it would be risky. Another power that hoses Martial artists and increases Mark's offensive abilities is Energy Field.

You're right there may be a future in Taunt. I'm trying to think of ways to give Mark slightly more staying power without betraying the concept. He's not about being tough as nails, but geez I don't want him to be street pizza either. :)

I've tried to focus him on speed without delving into all the associated areas too. I don't really want him to be going incorporeal or invisible (at least not yet). Deflection could work, though it would take a lot of points to buy it up.

Mark's definitely going to be very upset about getting owned like that. It's a good motivation for him to pay more attention in whatever kinds of combat training we're getting. I might satisfy myself by buying up defense and BAB. I think Defense bonus would stack with the dodge bonus from Superspeed.

Now that I know he's lived through it I'm glad it happened, though. Toki's given me a reason to explore new angles with Mark and impressed upon him just what leading Legacy may entail...provided he can explain what those drugs were doing in the car to the satisfaction of the Powers that Be. If not, I think he's going to be pretty driven to prove himself and get the spot back. Of course those are going to bring his problem out into wider knowledge, which is a whole new problem in itself.
 

Right now I'm sticking with actions that protect the innocents and not attack Pantheon, but eventually I guess there will be a choice, don't know which way she'll go yet.
 

Sam, Mark's Defence doesn't take into account his Super-Speed. It should be 26/27. That should help, it's pretty touch hitting that. And that's the concept, right? Easy to hurt, but hard to hit.
 

Agamon said:
Sam, Mark's Defence doesn't take into account his Super-Speed. It should be 26/27. That should help, it's pretty tough hitting that. And that's the concept, right? Easy to hurt, but hard to hit.
As the leader of the JE: Legacy, assuming he makes it through the drug scandal uncharged, should enable him to get some nifty gadgets, if not through JE and their inventors, then he can certainly get some from the Mitchell Foundation if he butters up Kelly, assuming that Toki agrees of course.
 

Agamon said:
Sam, Mark's Defence doesn't take into account his Super-Speed. It should be 26/27. That should help, it's pretty touch hitting that. And that's the concept, right? Easy to hurt, but hard to hit.

Hmmm...

Base 10 + 3 I bought up + 5 dex = 18. You're right, I didn't put it in there. Now I feel very silly. You can tell I've never run M&M since I normally learn the rules from GMing.

Throwing in the 8 ranks of superspeed and we get a 26. Ok...that makes sense even through my medicated brain. :)
 

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