Mutants and Masterminds (Editors Thread & OOC)

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From what I read, the collateral damage is just a side effect of Justice Elite being overconfident. Being the most powerful elite in the world gives Paragon an attitude of superiority. He probably thought he could take down the Pantheon folks without much of a fight. Hindsight being perfect, he'd probably wait until they were in a more secluded location for a fight if this happened again. Luckily, he's able to use Pantheon's bad rep against them, and Justice Elite won't come out looking badly.

Gotta love when the good guys make a blunder like that. :o
 

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Hammerhead said:
He's more like the Angel of Death, who can Heal himself if he gets beat up.
Superflight and stuff like that lastgs for the "scene" once it isn't in use, anymore then you have to use another Extra Effort, and it will take Ryan about 18 seconds (3 rounds of sprinting) to get to the students :)

And yes he is an Angel of Death but they don't know that
 

Calinon said:
From what I read, the collateral damage is just a side effect of Justice Elite being overconfident. Being the most powerful elite in the world gives Paragon an attitude of superiority. He probably thought he could take down the Pantheon folks without much of a fight. Hindsight being perfect, he'd probably wait until they were in a more secluded location for a fight if this happened again. Luckily, he's able to use Pantheon's bad rep against them, and Justice Elite won't come out looking badly.

Gotta love when the good guys make a blunder like that. :o

I suspect something far more sinister than mere incompetance. Look at the 3 Pantheon people they were presumeably following. Phase is essentially invulnerable to everything aside from Mental or other special powers (while Ghosttouch could be an extra on anything, it seems like it wouldn't always be appropriate), and Phase flies. Synapse flies. Bishop seems impossible to hurt (absorbtion with Triggered healing, regen+protection?). The JE people on the mission are: Paragon (leader, flies), Atlas (doesn't fly), and Redline (doesn't fly). Also, JE team present seems to rely primarly on physical attacks.

So what guys would I pick to against flyers that are only vulnerable to special attacks? Definitely not a non flying, team that uses physical attacks.
 

Victim said:
I suspect something far more sinister than mere incompetance. Look at the 3 Pantheon people they were presumeably following. Phase is essentially invulnerable to everything aside from Mental or other special powers (while Ghosttouch could be an extra on anything, it seems like it wouldn't always be appropriate), and Phase flies. Synapse flies. Bishop seems impossible to hurt (absorbtion with Triggered healing, regen+protection?). The JE people on the mission are: Paragon (leader, flies), Atlas (doesn't fly), and Redline (doesn't fly). Also, JE team present seems to rely primarly on physical attacks.

So what guys would I pick to against flyers that are only vulnerable to special attacks? Definitely not a non flying, team that uses physical attacks.
Noooo! I want to maintain my belief that JE is a force for good and not some devious group of people with a hidden agenda. I'm sure they only drew on the members available at the time. If JE, or members of it, have some secret agenda, it's time for the rest of the elites to jump on board and start using baselines as target practice. That and it would be sad to think the most powerful people on the planet are all bad guys.
 

Calinon said:
Noooo! I want to maintain my belief that JE is a force for good and not some devious group of people with a hidden agenda. I'm sure they only drew on the members available at the time. If JE, or members of it, have some secret agenda, it's time for the rest of the elites to jump on board and start using baselines as target practice. That and it would be sad to think the most powerful people on the planet are all bad guys.

It would be sad. But right now Toki seems to be playing up the difference between heroics of the FC universe and the more materialistic elites (huge salaries for JE, most elites seem to find jobs using their powers) in the Legacy world.

Besides, it's not as if powerful RL people usually turn out to be shining beacons of justice.
 

Somewhere in between I think, guys. While the members of JE aren't shining beacons, neither are they going to work with the UN in some subtle attempt to rule the world (at least, not from what we know of them). It's possible that they're unwitting pawns, but that's also unlikly, as Paragon, at the very least, would need to be in on any secret agendas, I would think.

All I know is that, unless there's a logical explanation for this, at least one of the more idealistic members of Legacy is going to get very cranky...
 

Agamon said:
Somewhere in between I think, guys. While the members of JE aren't shining beacons, neither are they going to work with the UN in some subtle attempt to rule the world (at least, not from what we know of them). It's possible that they're unwitting pawns, but that's also unlikly, as Paragon, at the very least, would need to be in on any secret agendas, I would think.

All I know is that, unless there's a logical explanation for this, at least one of the more idealistic members of Legacy is going to get very cranky...
A cranky Priestess, uh oh. She wont be the only one unhappy. Although, Kelly might be mollified by being offered a slot on Legacy, it would give her the chance to do things better then paragon and show him up, he definitely deserves it.
 

I like your paranoia, Victim. When did you develop it?

I personally don't see a problem with JE members being paid high salaries...they have a dangerous job, provide great value to society (supposedly), save lives (usually), etc. Further, elites are very rare, so demand exceeds supply. The heroics of life-saving doctors isn't diminshed by their high salaries.

The problem with Justice Elite, in my opinion, isn't their high salaries or materialism or that they endorse products. It's that their heroes for all the wrong reasons. (Raptor and Kensei seem different). They help people to feel good about themselves, maybe to justify their high salaries to themselves when they look in the mirror, or to feel important and loved.
 

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