Mutants and Masterminds Second Edition

[buzz]

I was just thinking about buying one of the revised print copies next month.

Given the delays in getting enough second printing copies to retailers, I only just got mine a few months ago. Now I'm debating whether to sell it and FC seeing as both will be replaced.

I also think it's interesting to see the page count creeping up (bounding up if you include the GM's guide). Granted, I think this is the nature of RPGs, SHRPGs in particular.

I will likely get it. I don't get to play M&M very often, but I really like it nonetheless. Kenson is da bomb.

Kinda suprised they didn't get it out in time for GenCon, though.

 

[Ankh-Morpork Guard]

I've got the 1st edition M&M book...just never had a chance to play it, which has been driving me more and more crazy lately. Either way, though, I'll definitely keep an eye on this.

 

[coyote6]

To answer Henry's question: Heck yeah, I'm planning on buying it. My group got to playtest it, and I found it to be a great improvement over 1e, without being changed too much.

(Note that we're still NDA-bound, so I can't really say any more than "I liked it", and leave the rest to Steve.)

Also, there's a couple of 2e thread on the Atomic Think Tank, where Steve has answered [in general terms] a few questions on 2e.

 

[Kenson]

I also think it's interesting to see the page count creeping up (bounding up if you include the GM's guide). Granted, I think this is the nature of RPGs, SHRPGs in particular.

Perhaps so, but I just wanted to clarify: the extra page count in M&M 2e isn't really taken up by additional rules as such: among other things, the 2e book has more robust Gamemastering and World-Building chapters, villain templates, a bestiary, a couple dozen NPC archetypes, and two introductory adventures (although one is basically just a "villains rob a bank and you fight them" combat intro).

The Mastermind's Manual is also not the M&M "Dungeon Master's Guide" so much as it is the M&M Unearthed Arcana with some more advanced GMing advice included.

The M&M 2e book is a complete, stand-alone game. The Mastermind's Manual is a core supplement, to be sure, but in no way required.

 

[Brother Shatterstone]

Thanks for swinging by Steve! It's always good to see posts from the master himself.

I am glad that the M&M 2e book is going to have an expanded GMing section. Is their anyway if you can tell us if the secret identity of our heroes is going to get covered more?

 

[GoodKingJayIII]

Rats. I just bought MnM 5 or 6 months ago. Probably won't be rushing out to buy this one unless I find a serious group of MnM players. However, the Mastermind's Manual sounds like a really kick-arse book, and that's one I'll almost certainly be grabbing no matter what.

 

[Ranger REG]

Perhaps so, but I just wanted to clarify: the extra page count in M&M 2e isn't really taken up by additional rules as such: among other things, the 2e book has more robust Gamemastering and World-Building chapters, villain templates, a bestiary, a couple dozen NPC archetypes, and two introductory adventures (although one is basically just a "villains rob a bank and you fight them" combat intro).

Then I will look forward to seeing what you revised or added in the GMing chapter -- for both newbies and veterans.

Later on, you can sell me on why I should pick up Mastermind's Manual.

 

[takyris]

Sounds great, Steve! I'm all over it -- and having kicked around some notes on how different it is to run a game where the heroes can decide to fly to Mount Everest as a full-round action when they want to fight from higher ground or blast your carefully prepared villain into mulch with a single blast, I'll really be interested in reading some of the GMing thoughts.

 

[philreed]

Perhaps so, but I just wanted to clarify: the extra page count in M&M 2e isn't really taken up by additional rules as such: among other things, the 2e book has more robust Gamemastering and World-Building chapters, villain templates, a bestiary, a couple dozen NPC archetypes, and two introductory adventures (although one is basically just a "villains rob a bank and you fight them" combat intro).

The GM and World-Building chapters will be nice to see. And I'd be a sad individual if I didn't take the opportunity to let people know that they can grab more adventures here and here.

The Mastermind's Manual is also not the M&M "Dungeon Master's Guide" so much as it is the M&M Unearthed Arcana with some more advanced GMing advice included.

Sounds like a winner to me. When was this one scheduled? Next year, right?

 

[Keeper of Secrets]

I playtested it and it really does rock. There was a slightly larger learning curve to it (as opposed to the 1st edition) but nothing all that bad.

I would not say it is *better* than the first edition because I feel the first edition really is great. It is a remarkable product and I am really looking forward to picking up a copy.

I wonder if Steve could tell us if it will be available at GenCon.