My novel -- THE CAULDRON, Ch1, The Siege of Concordant

If you don't want this kind of stuff, I will stop....let me know.

It's fine, and useful (though in this case by the time you replied that passage has changed quite a bit) -- but it would be nice if somebody said something positive! At this early stage, encouragement is more useful than criticism (not that the latter isn't useful, but the thing is so fluid right now).
 

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I think it has potential, and might be something that I would pick up if I came across it in finished form.
The fleshing out you did made make much more sense.
 

It's fine, and useful (though in this case by the time you replied that passage has changed quite a bit) -- but it would be nice if somebody said something positive! At this early stage, encouragement is more useful than criticism (not that the latter isn't useful, but the thing is so fluid right now).
well like, I said the first time, the first chapter had tons of good plot setups.

and chapter 10 kept me in the scene better as it was just one party.

Hang in there man. Even if all you hear is problems to fix. Because we wouldn't tell you that stuff unless we believed your project has potential and that you can finish this.

Now why are you getting so much stuff? You said it, it's a first draft. While you want and maybe need a pat on the back and a nod to keep going, first drafts need work. Everytime. They are bad habits and stream of consciousness married in a 4AM Vegas wedding. They are what one famous writer said, "you telling yourself the story." There's always a gem or two in there, but also much to clean up and rework.

You're gonna feel like you got beat up when you bring a chapter to critique. Especially if it's your first time. It's like drinking from the fire hose when people with years of studying the craft see all the mistakes they used to make. But if you take them one at a time, learn the basis for why you got that feedback (ex. passive voice in chapter 10), you'll learn to spot that and fix that in your second draft which starts to be the one you show people.

But I get it, I brought my first draft to my first critique, too. :)

Have a hug. Keep writing. I want to see more. I want to see your craft improve.

Here's a link to a free Passive Voice Detector

Paste your text in, see what it highlights. read the explanation. Try to kill some of those was's for more active sounding action.

The get back to writing.
 

It's fine, and useful (though in this case by the time you replied that passage has changed quite a bit) -- but it would be nice if somebody said something positive! At this early stage, encouragement is more useful than criticism (not that the latter isn't useful, but the thing is so fluid right now).

I should have been clear. If I didn't think it had great potential, I wouldn't offer what minor help I can. When I wrote my first draft, I got encouragement from one person. I agree, that was tough. Hopefully someone in person it's there for you, hopefully a few people.

Good luck, I know this is a tough journey. I've been writing game rules instead of rewriting my novel, partly out of fear, I think.
 

To go further with the example of what passive language means (aka Passive Voice)

The hooded figure was striding through the crowd, intent on something. Suddenly, he pulled his sword from its scabbard. Caitlin scanned ahead and saw a pair of children - a boy and an older girl - oblivious to the killer’s approach.

the word "was" is the action killer. It's a limp flacid way. "The hooded figure was striding through the crowd."
How about "The hooded figure strode through the crowd"

The man's on a mission. He ain't wassing around. Any time you see "was verbing" kill it with action verb.

You might even spice it up "The hooded figure shoved his way through the crowd, intent on finding something or someone. Quary found, he pulled his sword from its scabbard."

Adverbs are frowned upon. Either newbish or over-used or often paired with lame verbs "he ran quickly towards the gunman" when "he sprinted towards the gunman." So I swapped it out, and plugged in something to connect the previous sentence about him being on the hunt, to clarify why he drew he sword.

That's an example of fine-tuning a first draft to make it clearer, more evocative of the feeling you want.

Keep Writing.
 


To go further with the example of what passive language means (aka Passive Voice)



the word "was" is the action killer. It's a limp flacid way. "The hooded figure was striding through the crowd."
How about "The hooded figure strode through the crowd"

The man's on a mission. He ain't wassing around. Any time you see "was verbing" kill it with action verb.

You might even spice it up "The hooded figure shoved his way through the crowd, intent on finding something or someone. Quary found, he pulled his sword from its scabbard."

Adverbs are frowned upon. Either newbish or over-used or often paired with lame verbs "he ran quickly towards the gunman" when "he sprinted towards the gunman." So I swapped it out, and plugged in something to connect the previous sentence about him being on the hunt, to clarify why he drew he sword.

That's an example of fine-tuning a first draft to make it clearer, more evocative of the feeling you want.

Keep Writing.
Good point. Even in editing I missed, or created, some. I clearly need an editor also!
 


I just solved a plot problem when somebody on Facebook suggested I give the younger kid a disease. Poor kid. Still, his suffering helps the narrative move along!
 

I just solved a plot problem when somebody on Facebook suggested I give the younger kid a disease. Poor kid. Still, his suffering helps the narrative move along!
whatever helps keep you motivated.

The common advice anytime your plot seems stuck is to add more conflict and problems. So you could spread the disease around like plot-herpes. :)

try to announce your Diseases, Divorces and Deaths on page 1, it's usually poor form to spring that out in page 245 "..but I've just found out I have plot-herpes!"
 

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