"My Pathfinder Spoiler" Glimpses At Pathfinder 2

Paizocon took place over the weekend. Over the event, dozens of cards with snippets from the final Pathfinder 2 rules were distributed, tagged with "#MyPathfinderSpoiler". There are too many to share here, so here's a few samples and a link to the hashtag on Twitter where you can see them all.

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Ben Burch

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Starfinder Facts

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Squiddish

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Roll For Combat

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MetroBostonOrganizedPlay

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Dustin Campbell

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Dragons and Things​
 
Russ Morrissey

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I hope they release another version of the Beginners Box. I don't necessarily want full Pathfinder but a stripped down version with the four core classes for levels one to five is perfect.
 

mewzard

Explorer
Some of these spoilers are amazing.

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Don't piss off a 20th level Ranger, he'll track you through time and space for revenge, lol.

Reading a few dozen of these has gotten me pumped up again for the release in August.
 

Jer

Adventurer
Why is Spoiler 21 named "Human" Heritage instead of Elf Heritage?

I wonder who will publish their psionics rules first? Pathfinder 2 or 5e?
I would assume Paizo, since the earliest I would expect to see them for 5e would be next fall, and I suspect they won't be coming that soon. Meanwhile, I suspect that PF2 will have more frequent releases.
 

Morrus

Well, that was fun
Staff member
Why is Spoiler 21 named "Human" Heritage instead of Elf Heritage?
Why would "elf" take precednece over "human"?

I'm guessing they're saying that a half-elf is a human/elf descendant and not, say, a goblin/elf descendant.
 

Jer

Adventurer
Why would "elf" take precednece over "human"?

I'm guessing they're saying that a half-elf is a human/elf descendant and not, say, a goblin/elf descendant.
My puzzlement is because everything in the text is about the elf ancestry, so it seems weird to use the name "Human Heritage" for something that is all about the benefits they gain from their elf heritage. I'd expect something named Human Heritage to say something about the character's human parentage rather than their elf ancestry, so to me it's either misnamed, or it says something about how PF2 is organizing their heritages that I don't get yet.
 

Morrus

Well, that was fun
Staff member
My puzzlement is because everything in the text is about the elf ancestry, so it seems weird to use the name "Human Heritage" for something that is all about the benefits they gain from their elf heritage. I'd expect something named Human Heritage to say something about the character's human parentage rather than their elf ancestry, so to me it's either misnamed, or it says something about how PF2 is organizing their heritages that I don't get yet.
My guess is that half-elf is one of several possible human heritages. That’s just a guess though.
 

Aldarc

Adventurer
I wonder who will publish their psionics rules first? Pathfinder 2 or 5e?
I'm fairly certain that one of the reasons why Paizo developed their psychic adventures line for PF1 was because they actually aren't the biggest fan of psionics per se. Most of things labeled as psionics published for PF1 were done by Dreamscarred Press, who is also working on creating psionics for Starfinder.
 

Zaukrie

Adventurer
I'm guessing the sweet spot for me, complexity wise, lies between 5E and PF2......but I'll be sticking with 5E most likely, and just adding a few things I'd suspect....
 

CapnZapp

Hero
I'm guessing the sweet spot for me, complexity wise, lies between 5E and PF2......but I'll be sticking with 5E most likely, and just adding a few things I'd suspect....
Myself, I want 3E (or, I'm sure, PF2) complexity for the players and 5E simplicity for me, the DM.
 

Staffan

Adventurer
I hope they release another version of the Beginners Box. I don't necessarily want full Pathfinder but a stripped down version with the four core classes for levels one to five is perfect.
I believe they said around the time 2e was announced that it was designed with a future Beginner's Box in mind. Apparently, the PF Beginner's Box isn't 100% compatible with "real" Pathfinder - some of the details have been simplified to the point of being wrong (e.g. there are no AoOs in the Beginner Box, and that cascades into some other issues such as casters not being able to cast in melee at all). But with PF2, that is apparently not going to be a thing.
 

billd91

Hobbit on Quest
I'm fairly certain that one of the reasons why Paizo developed their psychic adventures line for PF1 was because they actually aren't the biggest fan of psionics per se. Most of things labeled as psionics published for PF1 were done by Dreamscarred Press, who is also working on creating psionics for Starfinder.
Considering 3.5 psionics were in the SRD and right there for the incorporation into PF? Yeah, they didn't like psionics.
 
Bear in mind, Gary Gygax publicly apologized for including psionics. There's a lot of people who don't like psionics (and have been vocal about it since they were introduced)
 

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