My poor, unfortunate players...

[Kae'Yoss]

Actions dictate alignements in D&D. Thought or ignorance is not an excuse. She took an unnecessary risk to hog the spotlight a bit, and that proved fatal to the party as a whole.

I have to disagree on that. It's like the difference between murder and manslaughter. The intention does count.

Example: In the Lord of the Rings, when the hobbits are in the Pony in Bree,the two younger hobbits get carried away a bit by the good food and the shelter and the company, and they start to tell stories that, if told to the conclusion, would tip off the Enemy that the ring is here. This could lead to Sauron regaining the ring and plunging Middle Earth into a Dark Age. Would you count that as an evil act? Remember that their intention was never to betray their best friend (and the whole world) into the hands of the Dark Lord. But it's only actions that count, right?

 

[Kae'Yoss]

I'm not sure why people are reacting so badly to a simple expression of exasperation, or why they are getting so hot under the collar about percieved slights to your friends that they don't know.

It was more than a simple expressionof exasperation.

But I really do think that if people are going to say 'you keen saying "kill the familiar" and "make her life hell on earth"' then they should probably quote.

OK, I'll do that.

They'll be able to get back, but it'll be hard, and I hope that they make life very tough for the player of the sorceress!

Notice that he hopes that some people make life tough for other people. Notice further, that he hopes that they make life tough for the player of the sorceress

If he doesn't encourage it (I'm not at their table, so I can't say that for sure), he at least hopes they'll do that, and he'll probably tolerate it. What we're talking about here is player bullying, not some mere in-game bad feelings between characters

Cos I don't think that reporting feelings (other PCs wouldn't mind if the familiar was dead) is the same as gloating (I hope they do kill her familiar).

Let me quote.
QUOTE=MerricB]There's a couple of PCs who'd like her familiar to meet an untimely end. [/QUOTE]
Say I'm overreacting. Say I don't know the way Merric talks. But this sentence does not, to me at least, say anything like "other PCs wouldn't mind if the familiar was dead". IMO it says "A couple of PC's would like to see her familiar die, and if he won't die of old age any time soon, they will help matters along."
Plus, the "" at the end of the post somehow confers to me the impression that the DM isn't just an impartial spectator in that, but that he thinks it's funny. He laughs at the sorceresses distress. That's gloating, at least in my book.
Also, from that "" I read that he finds it funny, and probably do nothing if the players start to pick on this one player.

I do udnerstand some people's concerns (favouring one particular player etc) but youve clearly explained how that was a misunderstanding (it was the crown at issue not the particular character).

Favouring one PC isn't the thing I see a problem with. It's squite the opposite: put one player (not only his PC) at a disadvantage.

 

[Henry]

Thread closed by request of originator.

Comments are getting rather personal in a thread about someone's gaming group that other posters don't personally know. Let's keep that in mind.