They did, I'd show you the quote but I can't see it anymore.
You can always sign out or use a different browser, you know.
No. It was never specified whether the village was in an area expecting and used to such attacks or not. These changes to the initial premise came suddenly, and then were presented as though they had always been the facts. That was my complaint against them
If it wasn't specified, then it's fair game to include that notion. Because the
facts are that in a world where invasion by bloodthirsty monsters is a legitimate threat, people would defend against them.
DING DING DING!!
SHE GETS IT!!
I'm not engaging in special pleading. I'm not trying to prove halflings can't defend themselves. My entire point was, a normal everyday village, with the defenses listed, would be hard pressed to fight off a gnoll attack, and would likely be destroyed. For the entire purpose of saying "Hey, I think they need some better weapons, maybe some militia or scouts".
Really? Because from out here, it looks like your point wasn't "
any village would be killed off by raids" but to specify that
halflings would be killed off. Especially when you rejected the idea that they
would have access to militia and scouts, whether their own or by paying taxes to other people who supply the militia and scouts.
I would agree with you.
I have also been told that such a premise makes my worlds death worlds where no society could ever survive. In fact, last thread
This is true. Because you are assuming that the people in your deathworlds build their villages exactly like humans in the real world did, even when they're not humans, and that they wouldn't include any defenses against legitimate
monster raids, and without taking magic and general D&D weirdness into account.
We are taking into account the fact that there are legitimate size differences between halflings and gnolls and that halflings are fully capable of taming, training, or domesticating monstrous creatures, and that there is magic that can be used.
I was told repeatedly that halflings would always build in the most safe areas where monsters could never threaten them, and therefore needed no defenses.
No you weren't. At least not the latter part. Canonically, however, halflings build their villages in safe areas and build them hidden away where it is difficult to find them.
The roof being reinforced means they doors are reinforced? Why? Is the cow walking through the doors to?
It means that halflings understand the concept of reinforcing their homes.
And I wasn't supposed to assume "DnDland" levels of threat in the world. I agree with you that that all sounds reasonable, but I've been told that I'm not supposed to raise the threat level that high or I'm being unreasonable. Heck, I was accused of it anyways.
Because--once again--you are increasing the dangers without allowing people to respond to the dangers.
So halflings are smarter and that means that gnolls can't be better at destroying things? 6 yr olds can play whack-a-mole. The idea of "don't shoot til you see them" isn't so difficult that someone of below average intelligence can't grasp it.
It means that halflings aren't just fish in a barrel, as you would have them be.
I destroy what I a come across. You don't need to be actively searching for halflings in particular.
And if halfling villages are hidden, then the gnolls are less likely to see them. Or they would only destroy the paddocks and above-ground parts and leave the underground homes intact. And if the halflings truly felt that they were outnumbered and outclassed, they would hide underground (along with their probably decent-sized stores of food) until the threat passed.
No, that is basing off the scenario described. If you wanted to discuss halflings and their pet ankheg hive then you needed to present a new premise, not act as though that was part of the original premise.
Fine: the premise is that people who live in a magical, monster-filled world would include defenses against magic and monsters to the best of their abilities, and would themselves employ magic and monsters while doing so.
You know. What you actually will find in the game, as opposed to your premise, which doesn't exist.
None of which were presented and many of which I've been told in the past are not allowed.
Good lord, I practically have scars from people's reactions last thread when I DARED suggest halflings might have a wall around their village.
No you didn't. You even pointed out that NeonChameleon suggested there would be a wall around a halfling village. And I suggested ha-has, which are half-wall, half-ditch.
The premise was slings were their defenses. I engaged on those terms.
The premise was that slings were traditional halfling weapons (in 2e and 3x, dunno about 4e), not that halflings would only use slings and reject all other weapons.
A concept I've been raked over the coals for before. I love how I'm the bad guy for not engaging in the level of threat I presented last time, which got me eviscerated. Bet as soon as I engage that concept, I'm right back to being called unreasonable.
You're the "bad guy" because you are either grossly misunderstanding what people are saying and refusing to accept explanations (instead whining that you're being attacked), or fully understanding it but lying about it.
You keep bringing up INT 6. Orcus is an insane creature of demonic evil too... but he can make a plan.
Orcus' Intelligence and Wisdom scores are 20. Maybe, just maybe, that's a bit better than an Int 6 Wis 10 gnoll with a terminal case of mob mentality?
Which was the premise I was given. And no, I've never stated they are worthless, that they can't defend themselves or that they have nothing to defend themselves with.
My entire point was "halflings+slings and that is it" is inadequate. IF you agree, then great! We agree. Problem solved.
I believe that you, earlier, linked to an r/AskHistorians thread? Someone did, at any rate. Well, here's another thread from
them that seems to suggest that they are actually quite dangerous, even to people in (leather) armor.
Now, in D&Dland, slings don't do a lot of damage. Not as much as they should, at least. But,
when combined with other reasonable precautions that halflings (or other races) may take, slings, even doing d4 damage could be quite effective. And mind you, some of those reasonable precautions could include an halfling or two with the
magic stone cantrip.
This is where you constantly trip up. You are assuming a flat plain where the halflings have no defenses or weapons other than slings and getting upset when other people are (rightly) pointing out that this is illogical and unrealistic and would never happen anywhere other than your deathworld.