D&D General My Problem(s) With Halflings, and How To Create Engaging/Interesting Fantasy Races

[Oofta]

It's like a giant halfling with floppy ears.

Except they, apparently, have lore. Which pretty much consists of being a peaceful race that wants to be left alone in their forest communities that people have a hard time finding because they get turned around and distracted. Well, that and they're tall so they're better.

@Yora, details are in Volo's Guide to Monsters if you care.

 

[Cadence]

Let's be honest here, if halflings WERE relegated to the Monster Manual, do you think it would have the slightest impact on the number of tables that see halflings played?

I would have guessed the majority of players game wide pick races from the PhB. Are MM races allowed in league games?

 

[FrozenNorth]

Because that's the case. It's like someone would be writing pages and pages of essays why putting pineapple on pizza is heresy and why people are objectively wrong to do so. It is just bizarre.

I would say the better analogy is this. There is a pizzeria that offers various pizza. 4 are sold as specials (including Hawaiian), 5 are on the regular menu, and the rest are available by special order.

Several pizzas on the regular menu have outsold Hawaiian pizzas, some consistently. Some people are suggesting changing the recipe for the Hawaiian, some are suggesting that the Hawaiian be put on the regular menu and replaced by one of the pizzas that sell better. A couple of people are even advocating that Hawaiian is a niche taste, and should be available by special order only, like tabaxi and aasimar.

Despite this, people who like Hawaiian pizza are accusing those people of seeking to ban Hawaiian pizza. Or that they secretly hate Hawaiian pizza. Or that they don’t understand Hawaiian pizza. Some are saying that they don’t like pepperoni, so we should replace pepperoni instead, despite pepperoni being more popular than Hawaiian.

 

[FrozenNorth]

No, but your hypocrisy here is definitely telling.

What hypocrisy? @Chaosmancer has always said that he is OK with halflings being niche race, like firbolgs.

 

[lingual]

Some ppl hate Hawaiian pizza so much they want to prevent others from eating it (or at least having to wait a year or more for a splat book to come along).

No one really buys pizza anyways. We all make our own and can choose not to make Hawaiian pizza in our own kitchens if we don't want to. Their spot on some menu at some restaurant shouldn't upset people so much.

 

[Vaalingrade]

Just because I have constantly asserted that Hawaiian pizza is terrible because pineapples are objectively terrible and no one likes pizza with pineapple on it doesn't mean I dislike Hawaiian pizza or pineapple. Why are you attacking me?!

Also, it is impossible to like pizza without knowing the history of that topping combination.

Except mushroom cauliflower. Because I personally like it.

 

[Mecheon]

No one really buys pizza anyways. We all make our own and can choose not to make Hawaiian pizza in our own kitchens if we don't want to.

Speak for yourself. I always go to this one semi-local pizza place because they make GOOD pizza. Real good.

mind I only found out it existed because the thai place two doors down was shut on a dinner run

 

[lingual]

Speak for yourself. I always go to this one semi-local pizza place because they make GOOD pizza. Real good.

mind I only found out it existed because the thai place two doors down was shut on a dinner run

Oh. It was the pizza anology thing! I never actually make my own pizza either. Basically meant that no oneis forced to buy, bake Hawaiian pizzas (ie. forced to play, allow certain DnD races)

 

[FrozenNorth]

I would have guessed the majority of players game wide pick races from the PhB. Are MM races allowed in league games?

I think @Hussar means Volo’s and MToF, to which the answer is yes.

 

[Cadence]

Just because I have constantly asserted that Hawaiian pizza is terrible because pineapples are objectively terrible and no one likes pizza with pineapple on it doesn't mean I dislike Hawaiian pizza or pineapple. Why are you attacking me?!

Also, it is impossible to like pizza without knowing the history of that topping combination.

Except mushroom cauliflower. Because I personally like it.

Back when I shift managed a pizza place (in the central US) we tried one with all 21 (?) of the toppings. It came down to whether your bite had jalapeno or pineapple on it - although I don't think we had any vegetarians on staff at the time which probably skews things. We didn't have any fish on the menu or that might have stood out. (Is Tuna on Pizza still a thing in Germany?).

They had pizza by the slice - cheese, sausage, peperoni, and gutbuster, and then a slice of the day. Some pizza place owners apparently don't go by popularity but by personal opinion. We would occasionally sell the taco (with cornchips), cheeseburger (with a ketchup and pickle at the end), and denver omellete (with egg, ham and green peppper). We never sold one of the Teriyaki slices that anyone could remember. And it still stayed on the menu. Of course that chain is down from nearly 20 (?) stores in multiple states to just one or two now...