My ranger Poll results: See last post. (was beating the Ranger with a better stick)

[Ukyo the undead]

Going off of the 1 is least and 5 is most essential

5 - 1)The ranger needs to be able to track from first level onwards, hence needs it as a bonus feat.
5 - 2)The Ranger should have a +1 BAB/Level
5 - 3)The ranger, being a rugged outdoorsman needs at least a d10 hitdie.
5 - 4)The ranger needs extra feats that help him in combat, such as Point blank shot or Two Weapon Fighting
1 - 5)Provided the ranger needs the feats discussed in 4, he needs them in the first 3 levels
1 - 6)The ranger needs to be able to cast some divine spells (disregard the spell Animal friendship for this question)
2 - 7)The ranger needs 6 skill points per level to fulfill his role
1 - 8)The ranger needs a good reflex save
3 - 9)The ranger needs to be able to acquire an animal companion
5 - 10)The ranger must not have multiclass restrictions
4 - 11)The ranger needs to be a core class, as opposed to being a prestige class
5 - 12)The ranger needs to either be forced or encouraged to wear light armour

 

[Ravellion]

With the following questions and 32 respondents on a scale where 5 is not essentail at all and 5 is absolutely essential:

1)The ranger needs to be able to track from first level onwards, hence needs it as a bonus feat.
2)The Ranger should have a +1 BAB/Level
3)The ranger, being a rugged outdoorsman needs at least a d10 hitdie.
4)The ranger needs extra feats that help him in combat, such as Point blank shot or Two Weapon Fighting
5)Provided the ranger needs the feats discussed in 4, he needs them in the first 3 levels
6)The ranger needs to be able to cast some divine spells (disregard the spell Animal friendship for this question)
7)The ranger needs 6 skill points per level to fulfill his role
8)The ranger needs a good reflex save
9)The ranger needs to be able to acquire an animal companion
10)The ranger must not have multiclass restrictions
11)The ranger needs to be a core class, as opposed to being a prestige class
12)The ranger needs to either be forced or encouraged to wear light armour

The average for each came to be:
1: 4.818181818
2: 3.818181818
3: 3.303030303
4: 3.242424242
5: 2.090909091
6: 2.303030303
7: 3.666666667
8: 2.878787879
9: 3.363636364
10: 4.060606061
11: 3.909090909
12: 4

And the mode for each came to be:
1: 5
2: 4
3: 3
4: 2
5: 1
6: 1
7: 4
8: 3
9: 4
10: 5
11: 5
12: 4

Thanks to those who replied! The conclusion has lead me to make my own alt ranger which can be found in the link to my site.

WotC probably will not change the ranger too much however, so we can still complain about it in July and August.

Rav

 

[Ravellion]

Was this useful for anyone BTW?

 

[Tyberious Funk]

Was this useful for anyone BTW?

Very interesting and informative, particularly the modes. Was quite surprised about the spellcasting issue... personally I've always thought the spellcasting was a bit out of place, but acknowledged that most others probably liked it. Guess my views are reasonably consistent.

I wonder if anyone plays with the alternative ranger rules as presented in Oriental Adventures (ie, no spells, instead the ranger gets a bonus feat every level he would have otherwise gained a new level spell).

 

[Conaill]

You still looking for more input? If so, here's mine...

5 - 1)The ranger needs to be able to track from first level onwards, hence needs it as a bonus feat.
4 - 2)The Ranger should have a +1 BAB/Level
3 - 3)The ranger, being a rugged outdoorsman needs at least a d10 hitdie.
3 - 4)The ranger needs extra feats that help him in combat, such as Point blank shot or Two Weapon Fighting
2 - 5)Provided the ranger needs the feats discussed in 4, he needs them in the first 3 levels
1 - 6)The ranger needs to be able to cast some divine spells (disregard the spell Animal friendship for this question)
3 - 7)The ranger needs 6 skill points per level to fulfill his role
4 - 8)The ranger needs a good reflex save
3 - 9)The ranger needs to be able to acquire an animal companion
5 - 10)The ranger must not have multiclass restrictions
3 - 11)The ranger needs to be a core class, as opposed to being a prestige class
5 - 12)The ranger needs to either be forced or encouraged to wear light armour

 

[Ysgarran]

1 - 5
2 - 4
3 - 4
4 - 4
5 - 2
6 - 1
7 - 5
8 - 2
9 - 2
10 - 5
11 - 6
12 - 4

 

[Ravellion]

Er... no, sorry guys, but any responses I get now have too high a chance of being polluted.

Ie, discussion is fine, but I am not going to do any more work (I am laaaazy...)

If anyone else wants to continue regardless, I have attached the excel sheet.(No I cannot, so email me if you need it)

Rav