[NBC] Revelations

HalWhitewyrm

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So, anyone watching this so far? We're three episodes into the 6-part mini-series.

http://www.nbc.com/Revelations

So far I'm 50/50 on it. The pacing is awfully slow, though it looks like they may be getting ready to go into action mode. The story is interesting (for what it is) but limited. Basically, the only way this plot makes sense is in a 100% Catholic world-view; other religious traditions about the "end of the world" are just completely ignored.

They sort of referenced the Greek Orthodox tradition in episode 2, but then again, in my limited knowledge of the Greek Orthodox church, most end-of-times stories tend to match those of Catholicism. Other Christian groups' views of the end times have not seemed to influence the story, let alone those of Judaism (although we really don't have an End-of-Times tradition as Christianity does due to the lack of the book of Revelations, we certainly have our fair share of midrashim--legends--about the days of Tribulations when the Messiah will come and fight the war to end all wars), or any other non-Western faith.

The blatantly-obvious Satanists make me laugh; I fully expect them to be shown playing D&D as the tool of Satan (yes, it's that kind of portrayal).

Still, I'll finish watching it, if only because it is amusing and entertaining, and does give you ideas for games, which is a plus in my book.

Of interest to gamers are the following sections:
The Signs - http://www.nbc.com/nbc/Revelations/the_signs/ - See the list of signs of the Apocalypse the characters in the series are following. You can use these signs wholesale, or adapt them to your game.
Resources - http://www.nbc.com/nbc/Revelations/resources/ - Various websites that should be of great use to conspiracy and religious-themed games in the modern world.
 

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I had a thread on this, and it just isn't all that great. I'm sort of watching it while doing other things but am not all that pleased with it.
 

HalWhitewyrm said:
The blatantly-obvious Satanists make me laugh; I fully expect them to be shown playing D&D as the tool of Satan (yes, it's that kind of portrayal).

Still, I'll finish watching it, if only because it is amusing and entertaining, and does give you ideas for games, which is a plus in my book.
Ever since I picked up Blood and Relics, my interest in the coming biblical apocalypse campaign have increased, and now I'm looking for more d20 products of similar theme. I know that Rapture is one of them products but is it any good, game-resource-wise?

Maybe Chuck should do Blood and Relics 2.


HalWhitewyrm said:
Of interest to gamers are the following sections:
The Signs - http://www.nbc.com/nbc/Revelations/the_signs/ - See the list of signs of the Apocalypse the characters in the series are following. You can use these signs wholesale, or adapt them to your game.
Resources - http://www.nbc.com/nbc/Revelations/resources/ - Various websites that should be of great use to conspiracy and religious-themed games in the modern world.
Thanks.
 

Ever since I picked up Blood and Relics, my interest in the coming biblical apocalypse campaign have increased, and now I'm looking for more d20 products of similar theme. I know that Rapture is one of them products but is it any good, game-resource-wise?
Haven't heard of Rapture. Link, please? I also have my eye on Morrigan's The Seventh Seal, though I'd like to see a demo first.
I'm a sucker for Apocalypse stories, and don't mind different backgrounds or world-views upon which they are based. Revelations is okay, and so far better than say, The Omega Code (though I'm not sure if that's really that great).
Ranger, if you like this topic, keep an eye out for an announcement from HMP hopefully soon. It's not Apocalyptic per-se, but definitely thematically tied.

Maybe Chuck should do Blood and Relics 2.
I'd buy it in a heartbeat. :)
 


So last night's episode was BORING!!!

Nothing happened. Well, there were some moments, but if you saw last week's episode, and then jumped to next week's, all you would have missed from this one is the chance to add to NBC's ratings.

Is it me, or do Dr. Massey and Sister Josepha fly around the world with way too much ease?

The sonogram (and not just any sonogram, a 3-D sonogram courtesy of NBC's parent company, General Electric) of the goat-headed demon fetus was kinda cool, though it finalized the series descent into Omega Code territory. I liked it a lot better when the occult events were implied, not overt, like Isaiah regrowing his finger on-camera, and the demon child sonogram.

Worst part is, it's like a car accident - you know you should turn away, but can't. With 2 episodes to go, I'll stick around. The next one promises to be the most action-packed episode yet, though that's not hard when this one was so boring.

On a side note, now I know why Fred Durst always wore that stupid, stupid backwards cap: to hide his balding head. That made me laugh. :)
 

I watched most of last night's episode and parts and pieces of the others. So far I'm somewhat insulted by the agenda they're pushing (separation of church and state is a bad thing, etc. -- I'm an atheist), not to mention the way they're blatantly ignoring every religious tradition other than Catholicism like they don't even exist. That said, everything seems to work fairly well within the framework of the story (except for Bill Pullman and the nun flying everywhere, yeah).

The only thing so far to grab my attention was the half-fiend baby ultrasound. That was moderately cool. However, I must question the wisdom of spawning an Antichrist with a goat's head and horns -- we're talking about the guy who's supposed to personally lead humanity into depravity and sin, but geez, they'll see him coming a mile away!
 

Filby said:
I watched most of last night's episode and parts and pieces of the others. So far I'm somewhat insulted by the agenda they're pushing (separation of church and state is a bad thing, etc. -- I'm an atheist), not to mention the way they're blatantly ignoring every religious tradition other than Catholicism like they don't even exist. That said, everything seems to work fairly well within the framework of the story (except for Bill Pullman and the nun flying everywhere, yeah).
Well, there is always the LeSea channel. It aired a series called Left Behind starring Growing Pain's star Kirk Cameron. It's less Catholicism, at least through my Catholic eyes.
 

It's less Catholicism, at least through my Catholic eyes.
Very much so not Catholic. The whole Rapture thing is something that is sometimes mentioned in the Catholic doctrine, but not as obvious as popularly described, nor given that much importance. That would be a more Protestant doctrine, to my understanding, though it varies from group to group.

So far I'm somewhat insulted by the agenda they're pushing (separation of church and state is a bad thing, etc. -- I'm an atheist), not to mention the way they're blatantly ignoring every religious tradition other than Catholicism like they don't even exist.
Well, the series made it very clear from the first frame that it was based on a Catholic paradigm, and at least they have been quite constant at this. Trust me, I'm Jewish (a convert, actually, from Catholicism, which is why I can identify the sources and understand where it's coming from), so I spend most of the episode going, "This makes no sense based on X or Y," or "Are there synagogues in this world?" in my mind, but I take it for what it is, expect to be dissapointed, and then feel mildly entertained at the end of the episode.

The only thing so far to grab my attention was the half-fiend baby ultrasound. That was moderately cool. However, I must question the wisdom of spawning an Antichrist with a goat's head and horns -- we're talking about the guy who's supposed to personally lead humanity into depravity and sin, but geez, they'll see him coming a mile away!
Yeah, that was kinda cool, though I agree, a little too obvious. Then again, the series also made it very clear they were going for the obvious, the blatant and the sensationalistic when you learn from the start that you are dealing with bona-fide, card-carrying, cult-forming, dark ritual-performing, kill-a-12-year-old-child-to-prove-how-evil-we-truly-are Satanists. With that in place, I fully expected any demon to show up to have a typical ram-headed profile, and was not dissapointed.

We'll see how tomorrow's episode goes.
 

Actually, if you look closely, you can see that Durst/Ogden has an upside down cross shaved into his hair. I don't recall if he was otherwise balding, but that cross was definitely deliberate...
 

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