Necro is IN! Planned Products

[tenkar]

But there is absolutely no way WOTc will allow anyone to publsh the 'core's' before them. How they stop them is what will beinteresting.

But what is core? AS far as WoTC is concerned the new "core" is the classes and races that will be in the 4E Players Handbook, DMG and MM. If it ain't in there it should be free game. Heck, variant classes of the new "core" will trot out fairly quickly as they have in the past... it is the nature of the game.

 

[Sitara]

Thanks for the replies Orcus. I hope you get to publish a 1E type Assassin core class.

And yes, I believe you about the WA emails. that really was a great adventure. i think one of the main reasons was the way you tied all the pre-generated pc's togather, with some small amountsof fluff thrown in. (i.e. the wizard wanted Corian's power/amulet, etc)

 

[FATDRAGONGAMES]

Great news Clark-I can't wait for ToH and the Player's Manual.

 

[Psion]

1. Tome of Horrors 4E: if WotC leaves monsters out of the offial rules, we will put them back in (cant say which ones cause we dont have the rules yet). Plus all the classics from the original Tome that you want in your 4E game will be back.

2. Advanced Player's Guide: Designed in part by industry insider Ari Marmell, if they left classes and races out, we put them back in (Of course, we can't say if bards or druids or barbarians or gnomes or half-orc are or arent in 4th edition, but we know some stuff has been cut, and whatever is missing we will create for you with work by respected designer Ari Marmell.)

Would you look at that. I may buy 4e after all.

 

[takasi]

I think the assumption people are making is that WotC is "holding back" gnomes, half-orcs, monks and other 'classics' just so they can sell them (perhaps with DDI) later on.

There is also the possibility that WotC dropped these classes because they don't want to confuse new players with old baggage. With Necromancer games, they can actually appease the old timers and at the same time keep the grognard stuff away from new players. A win-win!

 

[Tewligan]

But there is absolutely no way WOTc will allow anyone to publsh the 'core's' before them. How they stop them is what will beinteresting.

I would guess that, at the VERY most, they would have to change the names of their versions of classic races/classes - of course, words like "barbarian", "druid", and "gnome" were in use well before D&D showed up, so that probably isn't even a problem.

Also, I would guess that Clark knows the ins and outs of how things like this work much better than you and I put together - if he thinks it's worth the gamble, I'm going to trust him and wait for June with bated breath!

 

[TerraDave]

Yeah!

 

[Reaper Steve]

a third party publisher put out a hard cover core rule book looking monster book BEFORE WotC published the official MM. hard to believe, but true). And no one cared.

Well, I do think they cared and are taking steps to prevent a recurrence. Hence the fact that you can't publish a 4E book until 1 Aug, almost 2 months after the core release.

As far as new races and classes, esp 3rd party takes on the absent ones, I can see both sides. I wouldn't be surprised if the OGL stated 'no new races or classes' or some derivative of that. Later, that restriction could be removed. That's my guess... as time does on, the OGL will become less and less restrictive. For now, they will keep a tight hold. As the product line matures, they will open up the license to allow for more creative development which will spawn the ideas and developers that will bring about 5E.

 

[Orcus]

Well, I do think they cared and are taking steps to prevent a recurrence. Hence the fact that you can't publish a 4E book until 1 Sep, almost 3 months after the core release.

As far as new races and classes, esp 3rd party takes on the absent ones, I can see both sides. I wouldn't be surprised if the OGL stated 'no new races or classes' or some derivative of that. Later, that restriction could be removed. That's my guess... as time does on, the OGL will become less and less restrictive. For now, they will keep a tight hold. As the product line matures, they will open up the license to allow for more creative development which will spawn the ideas and developers that will bring about 5E.

We'll see. You might be right. I said this was a gamble.

Come on 6s!!!!!

 

[Reaper Steve]

We'll see. You might be right. I said this was a gamble.

Come on 6s!!!!!

I'm not sure I have a stance yet, other than I am glad that are taking steps to increase third party quality. Mostly, I'm interested in actually seeing the decision they make and how it plays out. So, I wish you and Necro luck... I'm sure there will be a market for your mentioned products if they are permitted.

6s? (As in 6-6-08?)