Need more historic weapons

invokethehojo

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I just caught a few episodes of Deadliest Warrior this weekend, and while the show's format is a little repetitive and boring and repetitive I loved learning about the weapons. I never knew that the real weapons of history were so interesting. Maces that can crush through armor, clubs that were effective thrown, darts were actually effective weapons (plumbata). I'm now fixated on the idea of houseruling some stuff to represent the way these weapons were really used. I'm starting to look around on wikipedia, and while I wait for my DVR to accrue all the past episodes of DW I was hoping you all could help me. Please share any cool ideas or info you might have on historically accurate weapons and how they were used.
 

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The Angon is an overlooked weapon. Of course, it's only useful if shields in your house rules are as effective as they are IRL.
 

The Angon is an overlooked weapon. Of course, it's only useful if shields in your house rules are as effective as they are IRL.

I like that one a lot. Shields are very useful in the game I run, allowing you to potentially block attacks, so rendering them useless is a big deal.

I've always loved maces, but they were never very cool in any of the RPG's that I played. When I read that they were used primarily to penetrate armor I loved it. In our game armor soaks damage, so when you use maces and are trained with them it bypasses that damage soak, which has worked really well.
 


There are quite a few books about weapons both RPG and historical reference.

RPG books that are not hard to come by include :
* the 2eAD&D Arms and Equipment Guide. Unlike the 3.X and 4e versions the armor and arms described within are, for the most part, historically accurate.
* Palladium has a whole line devoted to the subject including:
@ Weapons & Assassins
@ Weapons & Castles
@ Weapons & Castles of the Orient

Books with a more archeological and historical reference usage:
# Weapons: A Pictorial History -Edwin Tunis / Paperback 151 pages / Published July 1999

# Arms and Armour of the Crusading Era, 1050-1350: Western Europe and the Crusader States -David Nicolle / Hardcover 640 pages / Published August 1999

# Weapon: A Visual History of Arms and Armor DK Publishing (an excellent resource)

# Weapons: An International Encyclopedia From 5000 B.C. to 2000 A.D., Updated Edition Diagram Group (A book I have used since I was about 12 - by far one of the most inclusive of all periods)

DK publishing also has a series of "Eyewitness" books aimed at the juvenile audience but contains good source material none the less. Titles include:
@ Arms & Armor
@ Castles
@ Battle
@ Medieval Life

Hopefully you can find these in your local library or order them for yourself (Amazon carries most of them). Hope this helps.

BTW: Though it is great for inspiration, some of the info they use on the show DW is suspect and spurious, so do your research carefully.
 

Seconding many of Thunderfoot's suggestions and adding...

Palladium's Book of Weapons and Armor presents a bunch of stuff in a format that is easy to convert into almost any RPG's system.

Palladium Book of Weapons & Armor™: Palladium Books Online

But as chock full 'o' stuff as it is, it still misses stuff, like the "Spring-sword", a razor-sharp whiplike weapon:

...The Surul Pattai or Urumi (Spring-Sword in English) is a long, flexible metal blade that is indeed somewhat like the ribbon dancing equipment from gymnastics, though each one typically had 1 to 5 blades, similar to a cat-'o'-nine-tails.

According to a museum curator in India, the sword could also be worn around the waist like a belt. The blades are made of extremely thin, razor sharp metal, with lengths varying from 5ft to 10ft. They were commonly crafted by measuring the armspan of the future user. A blade's width usually ranges from 1 to 2 inches.

It's commonly used along with a shield for self-protection. Like many flexible weapons, you have to maintain its momentum, but because its razor sharp as opposed to blunt (like most flexible weapons), a wielder failing to keep the correct speed, wrist-work and pose could find the Urumi coiling around him- often resulting in decapitation.

For D&D, I'd make it a 1 handed exotic weapon doing 1d4 or 1d6 per blade, 18-20x2 slashing, with a short and long (reach) version. Each blade would require a separate attack roll and do its damage separately- meaningful considering the DR mechanic. Weapon cost would be per blade, max 5 blades. Its structure means it wouldn't have a lot of durability and wouldn't be usable for any of the various special combat maneuvers. Fumbles should do damage to the wielder. Because of their difficult and "customized" crafting, you might want to make them masterwork.

Given that its almost exclusively associated with certain martial arts, you could also make it a Monk weapon.

{The East has a bunch of interesting exotic weapons, like the razor-edged yo-yo (seen in a James Bond movie) and the chacram (made famous by Xena).}

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From Stone to Steel is pretty good, if d20 is any use to you. So, 3e (or 3e-ish).

I suspect you could still get some use out of it, regardless. Not entirely historically accurate (surprised? ;)), but fairly comprehensive, interesting, and well, big. :D
 

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