Need name for an Angel - anyone familiar with Hebrew or Ancient Hebrew?

[tarchon]

Blowitalltoel

 

[teitan]

Actually, you've got that backwards. The "common meaning" of "god" was before the "proper name"--or at least that's what the linguists say. It's like "Ba'al" meant "lord of" before it was used as if it were a deity's name.

Ba'al would be Lord God actually... pronounced Bah El, not Ball. Beelzebub is actually a joke at the expense of Marduk, chief deity of the Canaanites that ISaiah was ridiculing, the title of Marduk among the Canaanites was Ba'al zeBul, meaning Lord GOd of the THrone (god of all gods or King of the Gods) so when Isaiah called him Beelzebub he was calling him the Lord of the FLies... essentially saying that Marduk was Poop.

Jason

 

[The Sigil]

Can you get access to an LDS Bible Dictionary?

Anyone can. The LDS church has converted their entire print scriptures, including massive cross-references, topical guide, and bible dictionary (which are quite useful to many of non-LDS faith as well) into a massive online work... the Bible Dictionary portion is here: http://scriptures.lds.org/bd/contents. Granted, some of the cross-references are not all that helpful for people not of the LDS faith (e.g., they lead to works other than the Bible) but it is an excellent resource due to all the cross-referencing and footnoting. (Full disclosure: it helps that I'm LDS... please let's not drag religion into the thread; I'm merely noting this as a useful site for checking definitions and cross-referencing things)

http://scriptures.lds.org/bda/abaddon - ABBADON: A Hebrew word found in the Wisdom literature of the Old Testament denoting the place of the lost (Job 26: 6; Prov. 15: 11; Prov. 27: 20), which the King James Version translates as destruction. In Rev. 9: 11 it is used as a name of the devil.

http://scriptures.lds.org/bda/apollyon - APOLLYON A Greek translation of the Hebrew word Abaddon, or Destruction; in Rev. 9: 11 it is the name of the Angel of the Abyss (bottomless pit) made familiar to English readers by Bunyan’s Pilgrim’s Progress.

etc.

--The Sigil

 

[Henry]

Thanks, everyone! Wow, I really didn't know how much fun people were going to have with this.

I've settled on one, and (thanks to Strong's) I've picked a subtly different meaning SINCE OTHER EARS WERE LISTENING. But I've got some wonderful material to work with here. It's also got me interested in the Hebrew language - you've got to love a language whose verbs have three gears - Drive, High-Octane, and Neutral. English has tenses, but not nearly so varied.

 

[Heretic Apostate]

How about the angels from the Prophecy trilogy?

At the very least, it's quite fun to watch Christopher Walken...

 

[Joshua Randall]

If I remember my bar mitzvah school training after all these years, the Hebrew verb tenses have actually reversed since ancient times. In other words, what was the past tense in ancient times is now the present tense. That boggles my mind.

 

[LightPhoenix]

So "El" means God, right? I did not know that.

Is there a similar naming scheme for the evil folk?

 

[Sejs]

Senoy, Sensenoy, Semengelof.

Or you can always just call the angel "Harold"

 

[kirinke]

"Errr my name is feymeluz. But ya'll can call me Fred". The celestial said as he downed his beer with a satisfied belch.

 

[teitan]

So "El" means God, right? I did not know that.

Is there a similar naming scheme for the evil folk?

Sort of, EL isn't completely Hebrew, but it is Semitic. Al, El and L was the name of a Sumerian deity to whom Abraham paid Homage and in Hebrew the word came to mean God. There was also Adon and Jehovah, Adon was a solar god and Jehovah was a storm god. As time went by the three entities became intermingled through misunderstandings of Hebrew and the evolution of the language into the form used in the OT. Some of the roots are in there, particularly the Pentateuch and the Kabbalah, but most of the later books developed a "Hebrew Arrogance" as I call it as the prophets created a specialness for the Hebrew people that exluded various other people... including other Jewish cultures like Samaritans. An example is that the God of David and Solomon isn't Jehovah when you read their writings... it is Adon and it is from Adon we get the name Adonai, meaning Lord.

The evil folk as you call them actually use a similar naming scheme because that is the language and everything was created by the Gods (Genesis uses a word more accurately translated as GODS, no GOD) so everything is of the Gods. Samael, Azazyel, etc. are Hebrew names... whereas names like Asmodeus or Lucifer (mistakenly believed to be Satan) are Roman and Mephistopheles or Astaroth are Coptic in origin. I think...

Jason