Need WOTC Offical to deal with the half-elf pregen/Keep of Shadowfell before release.

[Kitirat]

Alright so I went to the store and saw KotS. I'll give impressions in another post, however in this I am solely looking for a WOTC offical to address the half-elf issue.

4 of the 5 Pregens looked great. Disliked that the paladin's LOH was reduced from 3 to 1 a day, but otherwise, very nicely done.

However the half-elf has NONE of its racial abilities except the following:
+2 Con and Cha.
+2 Insight + Diplomacy
+1 to allies for diplomacy if within 10ft.

Yes, that is it. No free feat, no additioanl class ability, no addition power as an encounter from another class, not even an extra trained skill, NOTHING EXTRA. I emplore WOTC to address this and sometime before the offical release of KotS post on the site a revised cleric. It looks bad for it not to be addressed and (for me personally) worse because I have 6 people playing the module who would like to see the new pregens and as old timers will cry fowl, spoiling the mood with this one thing ("damn it, do I have to be the low level cleric? Ah crap it is a half elf and they are half as good as any other race!")

Please address quickly.

As another note, I hope you all are still going to post a 6th character as was said before, can we get a confirmation on this?

Thanks,
Ken













First thing I thought was WOW, this is easily the highest quality adventure I have ever seen. Awesome.

 

[Jack99]

I agree with the OP - assuming the info is correct, it is unacceptable, and it should be fixed before the 20th of May.

Btw, if you guys (WoTC) are going to make an additional character, you might as well make a couple more, giving most groups more choices

Cheers

 

[Green Knight]

Disliked that the paladin's LOH was reduced from 3 to 1 a day

Damn, that sucks. So what was the Paladin's Wis and Cha? That might explain it, if it's tied to stats.

 

[Cirex]

That LoH change seems a bit harsh, but maybe it's because the Pregen paladin had choosen the hospitaler path?

And the Half-elf thingy sounds like a serious overlook (I think it's said like that).

EDIT : Let me explain what I meant with hospitaler path. I mean he's taken the path that leads to the paragon path "hospitaler", be it with feats or whatever, a more healish kind of paladin.

 

[Kitirat]

Damn, that sucks. So what was the Paladin's Wis and Cha? That might explain it, if it's tied to stats.

Wisdom and Charisma were both 16. He has a feat which gives him his Charisma modifer as a bonus to his LOH. Perhaps there are multiple paths and the dragonborn went the one with just 1 LOH and the halfing with one which gave 3 LOH? Did nhot see anything which made the dragonborn better in his class choices.

See ya,
Ken

 

[Boarstorm]

And the Half-elf thingy sounds like a serious overlook (I think it's said like that).

Oversight. Overlook is generally used as a verb. (Edit: Well, except when it's a noun. Yay for needless complication!)

Now then, to the topic at hand -- I tend to agree, but without seeing a half-elf racial writeup can we really be sure?

I mean, maybe they just get access to a racial feat at 1st level, and this half-elf chose the +1 to diplomacy instead of the "multiclass specialist" feat.

 

[pukunui]

... and as old timers will cry fowl, spoiling the mood with this one thing ...

The old timers in my group usually cry birds of prey but I suppose chickens work just as well.

Seriously, though. If that's true, then that really sucks and they need to make sure they've got errata-ed pregens up on the site on the release date (plus some extras for groups with more than 5 players). If not, I might just cancel my expedited shipping (see below) and wait until I can run the adventure with homemade characters rather than the pregens.

Plus, one of my players has called dibs on the cleric already. He'll be disappointed if I have to tell him it's "incomplete".

First thing I thought was WOW, this is easily the highest quality adventure I have ever seen. Awesome.

Aww ... I wish I could get a copy on the release date! As it is, I'm paying as much in shipping as the damn thing costs itself just to get it down under within a week or so.

 

[Merlin the Tuna]

The old timers in my group usually cry birds of prey but I suppose chickens work just as well.

You cry raptor? That's harsh.

 

[GoodKingJayIII]

Hmm... so if the race is incomplete in the pregen (and it certainly may not be), what's the likely hood of the race being incomplete in the actual rulebook?

 

[Kitirat]

Oversight. Overlook is generally used as a verb. (Edit: Well, except when it's a noun. Yay for needless complication!)

Now then, to the topic at hand -- I tend to agree, but without seeing a half-elf racial writeup can we really be sure?

I mean, maybe they just get access to a racial feat at 1st level, and this half-elf chose the +1 to diplomacy instead of the "multiclass specialist" feat.

Maybe. Wow would that suck. What did you get for being a dragonborn bob?
breathweapon, extra healing, +1 to hit and damage when bloodied you fred?

I'm a dwarf, +5 for saves v.s. posion, second wind is minor action, slide one less when pushed. How about you drew?

I'm a human, get a free feat, free at-will class ability and 1 extra trained skill, Jim?

Elf here guys, Ignore difficult terrain to shift, reroll an attack each encounter, 7 move, grant bonuses to perception within 10 ft, Andy, your last man up, what your deal?

I'm a half-elf. I get a +1 to diplomacy for everyone else when they are within 10 ft of me.

(Jim): And?

And that is it, an awesome merger of human and elven abilities!

sigh.