New Bullet Points (10/28): Gear and Equipment

[Tellerve]

Hey JPL - Dwarves can't mate with gnomes, banded male didn't exist, Muhammad Ali would rock Bruce Lee's world (weight difference), and you're right, it doesn't make any sense that Data used contractions. I feel like I should write a nasty email to Gene Rodenberry.
~~Brandon (who finds it easy to get worked up about anything)

WOAH WOAH WOAH, please tell me your not serious about the bruce lee vs Muhammad Ali? Ok, maybe you didn't state the caveat that Bruce isn't allowed to block, kick, etc...only use boxing techniques. Then I'd agree it'd be a great fight. Otherwise, you gotta be kidding.

And btw, I am a bit kidding and not really wanting to start a rant about lee vs ali but, well, I gotta stick up for my boy when those statements go flying

Tellerve

 

[Pierce]

Ok, maybe you didn't state the caveat that Bruce isn't allowed to block, kick, etc...only use boxing techniques.

Who said anything about boxing? Mr. Campbell would just slap ol' Ali across the head with his boomstick (which weighs 6lbs? 15lb? I give up).

And btw, I am a bit kidding and not really wanting to start a rant about lee vs ali but, well, I gotta stick up for my boy when those statements go flying

And don't get me started on Lee Majors. He's a wuss.

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[ledded]

I'm thinking in context of modern day when if I was to have a greatsword without a sheath (hell even with a sheath) it would be annoying and akward. Maybe depending on where you live and what you would be doing during a normal day. From my experience holding large objects that were great sword sized...granted no greatsword holding experience, it was akward. I can't imagine greatswords were ever not akward. I agree a shotgun isn't a svelt little pistol you can pun on your belt but my time holding a shotgun (it wasn't one of the long hunting variety) it appeared to me to be much more managable.

Oh, and I'm not thinking your being confrontational, and I hope I'm not coming off that way either.

I guess the reason I go along with the 15lbs is that my opinion is that it would be more trouble to lug around a greatsword rather than a shotgun. I think if you have evidence for yourself to think differently then go ahead and change it. No one is going to arrest you or anything. If I recall your in the campaign where you all have made some very cool and interesting changes to "modern d20" and you all seem to be having a great time.

Tellerve

Well, if you carry it *as it's meant to be carried*, the sword or the shotgun can be managed pretty well, though my point was both are about equally 'encumbering' for their weight. It's all in what you are doing with it. Even without the sheath, you can find plenty of drawings/woodcuts of men such as landsknechts carrying their swords effeciently over their shoulders on march, etc. I've tried it once or twice, and I've read plenty of accounts of it. The problem is just what you said... you think it would be so much harder because of all the misinformation that you've been fed about it from hollywood, games, etc. The fact is that most swords are not as heavy as people would think, usually even about half what you would think, with some exceptions (a rapier actually weighs more than you think, often more than what the average gamer would classify as a "longsword"). And while the length and weight of swords classified as a historical "greatsword" varied quite a bit, they are most often much lighter and a little shorter than most people believe (the exceptions being some parade or ornamental weapons). Check out www.swordforum.com where some real sword guys hang out, and there are tons of other quick references that can help you if you want a more accurate depiction of the truth. Other than that, look up some references to Talhoffer and a few others who published treatises on the use of greatswords within their time period for some more good info.

 

[JPL]

Hey JPL - Dwarves can't mate with gnomes, banded male didn't exist, Muhammad Ali would rock Bruce Lee's world (weight difference), and you're right, it doesn't make any sense that Data used contractions. I feel like I should write a nasty email to Gene Rodenberry.
~~Brandon (who finds it easy to get worked up about anything)

O.K....but what about Bruce Lee versus Data?

Riddle me that one.

 

[zenld]

Its all about Bruce. Data would be stuck trying to figure out what he was going to do, meanwhile Mr Lee would have done fifteen more attacks. Probably the only human fast enough.

 

[ledded]

Its all about Bruce. Data would be stuck trying to figure out what he was going to do, meanwhile Mr Lee would have done fifteen more attacks. Probably the only human fast enough.

Personally, I think I'd have to go with Bruce over all of 'em. The way his words would come out totally out of synch with the movement of his mouth when he was talking smack would confuse and bewilder any opponent long enough for him to kick them in the groin 267 times.

 

[Mustrum_Ridcully]

all possible, but I have to warn you all:
Sending Gene Roddenberry E-Mail has become difficult several years ago

Mustrum Ridcully

 

[zenld]

Personally, I think I'd have to go with Bruce over all of 'em. The way his words would come out totally out of synch with the movement of his mouth when he was talking smack would confuse and bewilder any opponent long enough for him to kick them in the groin 267 times.

Its all about the bad dubbing, man. All about it.

Bruce Lee kicks ass. Again.

In doublespeak. Its not as easy as it looks.