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Ranger REG said:
Until he learned from his first attempt at D&D movie, I'd hold back on calling him "smart." Maybe he should gain more experience making indie films.

For a first-time directory with no real experience, I thought he did fairly well. I guess what is sad is that no experienced directors or studios ever showed enough interest to make such a movie.
 

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Ranger REG said:
Maybe he should gain more experience making indie films.
Now who's smart? He's getting PAID to learn how to direct. How is making LESS money doing the same thing smarter?

MAYBE he should ride the gravy train he had the initiative to jump onto for as long as he can. MAYBE he should parlay his clever acquisition of the most important trademark in RPGs into as much personal gain as he can, while having as much fun (and learning as much) as he can in the process. I like to think that's what I'd be smart enough to do.
 

barsoomcore said:
Now who's smart? He's getting PAID to learn how to direct. How is making LESS money doing the same thing smarter?

MAYBE he should ride the gravy train he had the initiative to jump onto for as long as he can. MAYBE he should parlay his clever acquisition of the most important trademark in RPGs into as much personal gain as he can, while having as much fun (and learning as much) as he can in the process. I like to think that's what I'd be smart enough to do.

You know Basoomcore, I usually see your point and I do see what your saying, but I'm gonna have to step in here.

Now, don't get me wrong, I don't wish anybody any unsuccess, but if your gonna bite off more than you can chew, than don't complain when you get heart burn an hour or two later.

He shouldn't be envolved with the D&D name. Make a film, any film that isn't D&D related until you can prove that you can make a good film. That's right, not profitable, but good. You and I both know that making a good film and making a profitable film are going to take you in two different directions. One is going to be long term, and the other is going to be short. I would rather have no D&D film than one that blows and the last one regardless of the profit, blows chunks.

A car salesmen tend to make a profit when they sale a car. Some make the experience enjoyable and you tend to buy from them again and relay that experience via word of mouth. But if the experience sucked, well, we all know that experience... ;)

DMX? JET LEE? TOM ARNOLD? *hangs head*
 
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Bass Puppet said:
If your gonna bite off more than you can chew, than don't complain when you get heart burn an hour or two later.
I don't hear Mr. Solomon complaining. Not sure what you're getting at here.
Bass Puppet said:
He shouldn't be envolved with the D&D name.
Yes, he should, because he PAID for the right to be. You wanna be annoyed with somebody, be annoyed with whoever sold the film rights to this yahoo with no talent. But don't say he doesn't deserve what he had the brass to grab hold of. You don't like it, do what he did: pony up the cash and talk a good enough talk and get him to sell YOU the rights.

I certainly wish that TSR had valued its properties a little more highly at times. I wish that company had acted with a little more foresight -- and selling the film rights to Courtney Solomon stands out as a pretty bone-headed decision.

But I'm not going to blame HIM for THEIR stupidity. On the contrary, I'm delighted for him. I wish I was him -- what a hoot to have the ability to make DUNGEONS AND DRAGONS movies! Frankly, I'd rather have the name in the hands of a devoted (if unskilled) fan than with a bunch of soulless Hollywood hacks. It seems so fitting, somehow. It seems so... D&D.
 

Bass Puppet said:
DMX? JET LEE? TOM ARNOLD? *hangs head*
I'm reasonably certain that's Kai Lord demonstrating humour. There's so little information out on this project -- I can't even tell if Solomon is actually attached to direct or not. I thought somebody had claimed so, but I haven't seen any sources confirm it. But I'm fairly certain that DMX, Jet Li and Tom Arnold are NOT attached to it. But I could be wrong...
 

barsoomcore said:
I don't hear Mr. Solomon complaining. Not sure what you're getting at here.

Yes, he should, because he PAID for the right to be. You wanna be annoyed with somebody, be annoyed with whoever sold the film rights to this yahoo with no talent. But don't say he doesn't deserve what he had the brass to grab hold of. You don't like it, do what he did: pony up the cash and talk a good enough talk and get him to sell YOU the rights.

I certainly wish that TSR had valued its properties a little more highly at times. I wish that company had acted with a little more foresight -- and selling the film rights to Courtney Solomon stands out as a pretty bone-headed decision.

But I'm not going to blame HIM for THEIR stupidity. On the contrary, I'm delighted for him. I wish I was him -- what a hoot to have the ability to make DUNGEONS AND DRAGONS movies! Frankly, I'd rather have the name in the hands of a devoted (if unskilled) fan than with a bunch of soulless Hollywood hacks. It seems so fitting, somehow. It seems so... D&D.

First of all, I never said that I wanted to take up this cause and out do somebody. If I remember correctly, I said I would rather have NO movie than one he has put out already. Especially a 2nd one.

So basically your saying that it was stupid for him to make the movie but brass? I agree with you there. :D
 

barsoomcore said:
I'm reasonably certain that's Kai Lord demonstrating humour. There's so little information out on this project -- I can't even tell if Solomon is actually attached to direct or not. I thought somebody had claimed so, but I haven't seen any sources confirm it. But I'm fairly certain that DMX, Jet Li and Tom Arnold are NOT attached to it. But I could be wrong...

I agree, it sounds odd, and I hope your right. :)
 

Bass Puppet said:
So basically your saying that it was stupid for him to make the movie but brass?
No, I'm saying you're wrong.

You said, "He shouldn't be involved with the D&D movie." That is incorrect. He owns the film rights to the trademark, so he SHOULD be involved. He's the one who bought them, so he gets to make the movie.

I don't think it was stupid of him to make the movie. I think it was stupid of TSR to sell the film rights to someone with no track record, but that says nothing about HIS intelligence. I think it was brilliant of him to make the movie. I bet he had a ball and learned a lot. Good for him.

I should be so lucky. ;)
 

barsoomcore said:
Yes, he should, because he PAID for the right to be. You wanna be annoyed with somebody, be annoyed with whoever sold the film rights to this yahoo with no talent. But don't say he doesn't deserve what he had the brass to grab hold of. You don't like it, do what he did: pony up the cash and talk a good enough talk and get him to sell YOU the rights.
AFAIK, no one owned the film right since TSR sold it out in the option market. Solomon picked it up like you pick up a carton of eggs at Safeway.


barsoomcore said:
But I'm not going to blame HIM for THEIR stupidity. On the contrary, I'm delighted for him. I wish I was him -- what a hoot to have the ability to make DUNGEONS AND DRAGONS movies! Frankly, I'd rather have the name in the hands of a devoted (if unskilled) fan than with a bunch of soulless Hollywood hacks. It seems so fitting, somehow. It seems so... D&D.
Ugh! A statement like that makes me want to stop playing D&D from here on in. If that is the case, it should have been a direct-to-video film, or a B-type Troma Production film. :\

And if you don't mind, I'd have preferred a devoted but also SKILLED filmmaking fan. Now, if I had the right to such film, I may feel all giddy and orgasmic inside for acquiring the right, but after the celebratory euporia even I know myself well enough that I'm not a professional filmmaker, so I'd scope out for the best (not barely) qualified people to put my vision into the silver screen.
 
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barsoomcore said:
No, I'm saying you're wrong.

You said, "He shouldn't be involved with the D&D movie." That is incorrect. He owns the film rights to the trademark, so he SHOULD be involved. He's the one who bought them, so he gets to make the movie.

Your right, if he owns the trademark than yes, legaly he should be involved.

You know, I think we are going in circles here, so I'm going to end my point here. Regardless if he owns the rights to the D&D trademark, he made a bad film. Regardless if his brass was a shiney as the day was long, still doesn't make him qualified (to me) to continue to make another film about D&D. Yeah, good for him, he's taken on this project. But to what expense? To make the D&D core happy (we know that answer to that)? To line his pockets full of money (you think he's sitting back smiling, but who really knows how he feels)? To get more "experience" in the film industry? Because he "Owns" the rights? Because he purchased the rights before anybody else thought of taking on the project?

If he was passionate about making films, then I would be able to see through that, like I was able to see through a lot of the cornyness that Peter Jackson had in LOTR (B.T.W, I love the LOTR films). But I don't see it and I disagree with your reasoning...but then again, I'm entitled to my opinion just like you are entitled to yours.
 
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