WotC New D&D survey from WotC

[Maxperson]

Yeah. I remember mixing them pretty freely as well.

 

[FitzTheRuke]

I have to admit, I was pretty by-the-book back then, so it may have been that I wasn't comfortable with mixing them. I still don't like a lot of house-rules (at least not when playing by-the-book will do - I mean, I'm not against minor tweaks here and there). I was much fussier in my youth. I guess I just couldn't see it.

Still, I maintain that any 5e revisions that are upcoming will be purpose-built backwards compatible in a way that 2e and 1e were not. (Even if it's effectively similar).

 

[Parmandur]

Not likely, considering everyone else’s experiences. Questions about the two properties seem to be what shortens the survey, not age.

As I’ve said before, I will bet you 20$ USD that we do not get a 6e in 2024, and at most we will see a revised set of core books that collates errata, puts optional features in the PHB, maybe shuffles the races and/or classes, and maybe makes some simple changes that won’t invalidate even a single subclass from any 5e sourcebook.

I'm not about to put any money on it, but I wouldn't be surprised if we see exactly what you describe, but they lowkey call it 6E and continue on as is.

 

[FitzTheRuke]

I'm not about to put any money on it, but I wouldn't be surprised if we see exactly what you describe, but they lowkey call it 6E and continue on as is.

They were very resistant to call 5e "Fifth Edition" so I expect that they will, if anything, play down the fact that it's "revised 5e". (As opposed to calling it 6e).

 

[darjr]

Actually I think the 2e author has said explicitly that they tried for backwards compatibility.

yup, One of Cooks main design goals was broad backward compatibility.

Player's Handbook, Revised (2e) - Wizards of the Coast | AD&D 2nd Ed. | Rules | AD&D 2nd Ed. | Dungeon Masters Guild

Player's Handbook, Revised (2e) - Here is the indispensable encyclopedia of fantasy role-playing. Everything the player needs is here: how to create a mig

www.dmsguild.com

 

[doctorbadwolf]

Actually I think the 2e author has said explicitly that they tried for backwards compatibility.

yup, One of Cooks main design goals was broad backward compatibility.

Player's Handbook, Revised (2e) - Wizards of the Coast | AD&D 2nd Ed. | Rules | AD&D 2nd Ed. | Dungeon Masters Guild

Player's Handbook, Revised (2e) - Here is the indispensable encyclopedia of fantasy role-playing. Everything the player needs is here: how to create a mig

www.dmsguild.com

Sure, and maybe my perception of the amount of difference is wrong. Like I said, I’ve read 1e but never played it.

I was hacking HeroQuest to be broader in scope, and never even knew D&D existed, until the late 90’s and Baldur’s Gate 2, and started with 2e, briefly considered 3.5 an improvement but eventually grew to hate it, and then really fell in love with D&D playing and running 4e.

 

[darjr]

Sure, and maybe my perception of the amount of difference is wrong. Like I said, I’ve read 1e but never played it.

I was hacking HeroQuest to be broader in scope, and never even knew D&D existed, until the late 90’s and Baldur’s Gate 2, and started with 2e, briefly considered 3.5 an improvement but eventually grew to hate it, and then really fell in love with D&D playing and running 4e.

Definitely not discounting your experience or view. I know of some who thought the important differences had little to do with actual rules, sort of.

Anyway I find your path in the hobby kinda unique and pretty interesting.

 

[doctorbadwolf]

Definitely not discounting your experience or view. I know of some who thought the important differences had little to do with actual rules, sort of.

Anyway I find your path in the hobby kinda unique and pretty interesting.

Yeah, I think that path might be part of why I have basically no threshold for hacking games.

 

[see]

The version of D&D I initially played consisted of the 1e PHB, the 1e MM, the 1e Fiend Folio, the 1e MM2, the 1e Deities & Demigods, the 2e DMG, and the BECMI Expert Set (the Isle of Dread in particular, but also the "How much does it cost to build a castle" stuff). I tend to call it 1st edition for a practical summary, but, it was a quite functional mutt.

 

[FitzTheRuke]

To be fair, just because you can play Frankensteined D&D doesn't really make them entirely compatible. I mean, I made a game that my group played very wonderful games for an entire decade that was a mash-up of 2e D&D and Call of Cthulhu - but I wouldn't call those two games compatible.

That said, I am now entirely convinced that 2e and 1e were not hard to mix, even if my group never did it.

And yet I still maintain that I believe that any new D&D for the foreseeable future will still count as 5e (with new swap-out options), and not 5.5 or 6e.