New Design & Development: Feats

[Twiggly the Gnome]

Here I thought it was going to be the Golden Wyvern thing.

I would think that news would be somewhat of a relief to many. Traditions as a feat is probably the most innocuous way that concept could have been implemented.

 

[Dragoon]

Interesting read, but ugh on the feat name for Golden Wyvern Adept. What is wrong with "Shape Spell" or a different descriptive name rather than playing, "lets make feats with fanciful names game" by the 4e designers?

Player: "Okay I'm taking Golden Wyvern Adept feat for my wizard."
DM: "Whats that do?"

 

[Rechan]

Interesting read, but ugh on the feat name for Golden Wyvern Adept. What is wrong with "Shape Spell" or a different descriptive name rather than playing, "lets make feats with fanciful names game" by the 4e designers?

I'm willing to bet that Golden Wyvern mages can pick up the feat, as opposed to them all?

 

[BryonD]

Interesting read, but ugh on the feat name for Golden Wyvern Adept. What is wrong with "Shape Spell" or a different descriptive name rather than playing, "lets make feats with fanciful names game" by the 4e designers?

Player: "Okay I'm taking Golden Wyvern Adept feat for my wizard."
DM: "Whats that do?"

I like what they showed. But I agree 100% here.
If you want to add some common "in world" names as flavor text then great. But please, ditch the silly meaningless goop as the primary name.

 

[Remathilis]

Interesting.

Toughness. Hp equal to class level +3 (is that a indication of triple starting hp at first?)

Alertness: Wonder why this isn't Skill Focus?

First Reaction: Shows a use for AP (there is a feat in Eberron that does this already)

Golden Wyvern Adept: Well, its a limited version of the Archmages shape spell power. Makes wisdom useful for mage "powers" (not spells?)

 

[FireLance]

Ugh, more class straight jackets. Sorry fighter, spring attack is too "rogue-y". Oh you want to shot on the run? Congradulations, it comes packaged with favored enemies, animal companions and divine spells. This is one of the first bits of news that has me seriously worried.

Two thoughts:

One, a talent tree may be open to more than one class, so the (hypothetical) Combat Mobility talent tree which includes Spring Attack and Shot on the Run might be open to both the rogue and the ranger classes.

Two, the idea of fighters not getting access to Spring Attack may tie in with the whole idea of combat roles. A defender class should be drawing attacks, not avoiding them. However, that doesn't stop any character from getting Spring Attack - he just needs some levels in a striker class.

 

[Merlin the Tuna]

Golden Wyvern Adept: Well, its a limited version of the Archmages shape spell power. Makes wisdom useful for mage "powers" (not spells?)

I didn't think about it at first, but it is nice to see Wisdom showing up for Wizards. Given that they're usually presented wise-but-frail sages, 3e's Int-Con-Dex focus was more than a bit annoying. Here's to hoping that they tend towards using all of the mental stats at least a smidgen.

 

[tombowings]

Alertness: Wonder why this isn't Skill Focus?

The skill system does not seem to be much like that of SWSE in every way. There is the perception skill, but no skill focus. maybe there will be skill ranks.

 

[FireLance]

Alertness: Wonder why this isn't Skill Focus?

Because of the "do not grant enemies combat advantage in surprise rounds" clause.

 

[KingCrab]

Interesting read, but ugh on the feat name for Golden Wyvern Adept. What is wrong with "Shape Spell" or a different descriptive name rather than playing, "lets make feats with fanciful names game" by the 4e designers?

Player: "Okay I'm taking Golden Wyvern Adept feat for my wizard."
DM: "Whats that do?"

Agreed. Shape Spell would have been a nice name.