New Dragon+ (Feb 2019): Saltmarsh & Greyhawk edition

The new Dragon+ issue (WotC's in-house online magazine) is out, and it has some Greyhawk, with input from Luke Gygax! Plus previews of Ghosts of Saltmarsh, and more.



Table of Contents:

  • Welcome Letter
  • Imagining the Ampersand
  • In the Works (...D&D items in production now includes further details on Ghosts of Saltmarsh,...)
  • A Darkened Wish
  • Oddities, Creatures, & Companions (...new tables to accentuate the "weird" of characters, plus new companions...)
  • Terror of Undermountain
  • Best of the DM's Guild
  • Behind the Screen: Greyhawk (...a deep dive into this deliciously dark world, before Luke Gygax shares a more personal view of this classic setting)
  • Maps of the Month (a lot of Undermountain maps, not sure if these are new or part of the adventure)
  • Extra Life
  • Video & Highlights
  • Fiction: Law & Order
  • Next Issue:
  • Staff Page:
 
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dave2008

Legend
I'm still going through it, but this seems like the best Dragon+ yet. Quite a bit of interesting content. I hope future installments are as good as this one.
 

Parmandur

Legend
I'm still going through it, but this seems like the best Dragon+ yet. Quite a bit of interesting content. I hope future installments are as good as this one.
They've been building it up slowly, but it is pretty close to a full magazine now.

The Greyhawk article was fascinating.
 

dave2008

Legend
They've been building it up slowly, but it is pretty close to a full magazine now.

The Greyhawk article was fascinating.
Yep, my thoughts as well. I just started it when I realized...I should get back to work! I'll have to finish it when I get home :(
 
Definitely dug it. Still hoping for a proper 5e Greyhawk release, but really, most of the tools are there already. It sounds like they've got a good grasp of "how is this world different from the Forgotten Realms?" Which, to me, in any fantasy setting, is the important question these days (though I would add "and Middle-Earth" to that as well). I think they've sussed out the grit, the moral ambiguity, and, thankfully, the weirdness.

The next time I start a new campaign, I think it'll be set in Greyhawk. Hopefully there'll be something official by then!
 

lkj

Adventurer
That was a long section on Greyhawk. I keep trying to decide if all this Greyhawk publicity lately (Mearls interview, Dragon+) is a sign that

1) They have something in the works and are building up to it
2) Mearls is trying to drum up support so he can do something
3) This is the sort of support they are willing to provide

AD
 

dave2008

Legend
That was a long section on Greyhawk. I keep trying to decide if all this Greyhawk publicity lately (Mearls interview, Dragon+) is a sign that

1) They have something in the works and are building up to it
2) Mearls is trying to drum up support so he can do something
3) This is the sort of support they are willing to provide

AD
I hope number 1 and fear number 3
 

dave2008

Legend
That was a long section on Greyhawk. I keep trying to decide if all this Greyhawk publicity lately (Mearls interview, Dragon+) is a sign that

1) They have something in the works and are building up to it
2) Mearls is trying to drum up support so he can do something
3) This is the sort of support they are willing to provide

AD
Hmmm, after reading a bit more, it really looks like #3 to me. That whole section on Greyhawk for 5e seems like it is all we are going to get to me. Hopefully I'm wrong.
 

lkj

Adventurer
Hmmm, after reading a bit more, it really looks like #3 to me. That whole section on Greyhawk for 5e seems like it is all we are going to get to me. Hopefully I'm wrong.
I'm not so sure. I know what you mean in that they are listing a lot of existing resources you can use. But the article is exactly the kind of thing you would write to get people thinking about the setting in anticipation of something coming up. But since WotC don't announce releases early, they can't just leave people who are reading the article hanging. They have to point to existing resources. Combined with the fact that Mearls has been talking about finding a way to release Greyhawk in 5e for quite awhile, it's enough to keep my hopes alive.

Of course, that's all speculation. Maybe it is #3. Or maybe it will be eventually because Mearls won't be able to find a good business case to do more.

But I can dream!

AD
 

Nebulous

Hero
Financially I don't know if it is feasible enough for them to put out a hardback Greyhawk sourcebook, although I'm sure it would make a lot of people happy, it might not overall make ENOUGH people happy.
 

lkj

Adventurer
Financially I don't know if it is feasible enough for them to put out a hardback Greyhawk sourcebook, although I'm sure it would make a lot of people happy, it might not overall make ENOUGH people happy.
I think there's a good chance you're right. The only context where it makes sense is if it's done as part of one of their adventures, ala Storm Kings Thunder (which had an awful lot of setting info in it).

Maybe more likely is something more akin to the Eberron pdf. Just a matter of whether it's worth the cost of development time then. And if it does well, then, maybe, you consider a hardback.

AD
 

vpuigdoller

Explorer
I loved the Greyhawk article. Luke has so many good anecdotes from his childhood that are very cool and very informative.
 

vpuigdoller

Explorer
To be honest all I would want is a gazetteer directed at both players and dm, with an updated map, which there are options around. Class options, gods and magic items specific to the setting. That's it! Also, I think they can make a lot of money by reprinting the 1983 boxed set "World of Greyhawk" as a premium reprint edition.
 

dave2008

Legend
Financially I don't know if it is feasible enough for them to put out a hardback Greyhawk sourcebook, although I'm sure it would make a lot of people happy, it might not overall make ENOUGH people happy.
I think they should probably keep all hardbacks Forgotten Realms oriented - continues to keep a clear message for new comers. However, I think they should open up all old settings on DMsGuild with new content (similar to Eberron) and old released via PDF and POD. I think that would be a win/win. The hardcovers are sold at all manner of stores and keep a clear message for beginers, and those in the know can go to DMsGuild to get there specific setting content. Seems pretty obvious to me.
 

Sword of Spirit

Adventurer
I think they should probably keep all hardbacks Forgotten Realms oriented - continues to keep a clear message for new comers. However, I think they should open up all old settings on DMsGuild with new content (similar to Eberron) and old released via PDF and POD. I think that would be a win/win. The hardcovers are sold at all manner of stores and keep a clear message for beginers, and those in the know can go to DMsGuild to get there specific setting content. Seems pretty obvious to me.
This ship has already long since sailed on keeping all the hardcovers Forgotten Realms oriented though. Only SCAG and the mega-adventures follow that rule. All the other books are explicitly setting-inclusive.
 

Parmandur

Legend
That was a long section on Greyhawk. I keep trying to decide if all this Greyhawk publicity lately (Mearls interview, Dragon+) is a sign that

1) They have something in the works and are building up to it
2) Mearls is trying to drum up support so he can do something
3) This is the sort of support they are willing to provide

AD
Based on his Dragon Talk interview, option 2 seems credible. Though they are publishing a book this Spring set primarily in Greyhawk.
 

dave2008

Legend
This ship has already long since sailed on keeping all the hardcovers Forgotten Realms oriented though. Only SCAG and the mega-adventures follow that rule. All the other books are explicitly setting-inclusive.
Setting inclusive is fine, just not setting specific.
 

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