Geoff Watson
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Warblades aren't proficient with missile weapons, so if they can't get to melee (eg flying enemies), a warblade would be a LOT worse off than a fighter.
Geoff.
Geoff.
New Excerpts - Tome of Battle & Dragons of Faerun
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Whizbang Dustyboots
Gnometown Hero
Well, Dragons of Faerun certainly isn't for me. I was curious about it and considered picking it up, but the Faerun part of the title seems to be getting a lot of weight -- if the preview is any indication, it's a major chunk of lore. Great for FR players, not so great for people cherry-picking content from books. But that's OK.
I really have to wait and hear more about Tome of Battle before buying. I like the idea of uber-swashbucklers, but not so much so that they make every other melee class in the game obsolete, unless we want to play an all-ToB game. (Which, of course, just raises the question of why I wouldn't just play IH instead.) Maybe it's a case of "reads bad, plays good," which will come out eventually if that's the case.
I really have to wait and hear more about Tome of Battle before buying. I like the idea of uber-swashbucklers, but not so much so that they make every other melee class in the game obsolete, unless we want to play an all-ToB game. (Which, of course, just raises the question of why I wouldn't just play IH instead.) Maybe it's a case of "reads bad, plays good," which will come out eventually if that's the case.
SteveC
Doing the best imitation of myself
Wow.
In looking at this, all I can say is wow.
Great ideas, very creatively executed. Very cool.
Completely out of balance with the rest of the game. Out of balance especially with recent products. The Tome of Magic is towards the low end of the power scale if it is anything, and the PHB II classes seem to be smack dab in the middle of things.
I think this looks like something that would make a great basis for an entire campaign where everyone had these abilities, but to balance in a campaign with a normal fighter or rogue...
Nope.
--Steve
In looking at this, all I can say is wow.
Great ideas, very creatively executed. Very cool.
Completely out of balance with the rest of the game. Out of balance especially with recent products. The Tome of Magic is towards the low end of the power scale if it is anything, and the PHB II classes seem to be smack dab in the middle of things.
I think this looks like something that would make a great basis for an entire campaign where everyone had these abilities, but to balance in a campaign with a normal fighter or rogue...
Nope.
--Steve
Nightfall
Sage of the Scarred Lands
My only comment stems from the History section of Dragons of Faerun. Mainly the fact that a) Orcus didn't get his wand destroyed. It was just lost. b) It appears Faerun's dragons will indeed be going to war...just for divine purposes. I hope Orcus gets involved. He deserves it after the hell he's been through because of FR. 
blargney the second
blargney the minute's son
I like the stuff in the ToB preview. In the fighter-warblade analysis last page, the fighter should have had a big shield. High AC is where it's at for fighters, not DPS.
VirgilCaine
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Geoff Watson said:
Note that the "sample equipment" wastes money on a Shortbow.
This is a big disadvantage.
NO MISSILE WEAPON PROFICIENCIES AT ALL.
With Power Throw (CAdv) a Fighter or Barbarian can lay the smackdown even at range.
I also think knocking down the HD a peg or two would be a good idea. I mean, Rangers get along with d8s nowadays, don't they?
VirgilCaine
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BryonD said:
That CAN be thrown, not that they can throw them. I dunno. It still means the worst they could get is...hmmm. PBS+Far Shot means you've got 30' feet on a spear or trident at first level, adding in magic spells or magic weapons would mean, say...60'? 90'? Not that far at high levels.
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