reapersaurus
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umm... I guess you forgot the offer Jade suggested.Saepiroth said:
it doesn't matter.
drop it.
no good can come of talking about it.
New Game of Death: Battle Royale of the GAWDS
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it doesn't matter.
drop it.
no good can come of talking about it.
clockworkjoe
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Dabbil: Zalilad took 4d6 falling damage, which was rolled to 8. It is in the entry.
clockworkjoe
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One question for all the math experts out there: is my math about the weight of the tree off? If so, how?
Oak averages about 48 pounds per cubic foot. Now that is white oak, not red, but white is the more common variety. You asked. =o)
Now to determine the cubic footage of a 60' tall 6' diameter tree. Well there are a ton of ways to do this but let me give you the correct way. =o)
Volume of Log = (L) x (G/4) x (G/4) = (1/4) x (1/4) x (L) x (G) x (G) = 0.0625 x (L) x (G) x (G)
L=length and G=girth=circumfrence=pi*d
So from the formula above we get 0.0625*60*18.8*18.8=1325.4 hoppus cubic feet or 26.508 hoppus cubic tons.
A hoppus ton is equal to rougly 1.8 cubic meters or 63.567 cubic feet. So 26.508*63.567=1685 cubic feet, roughly. So that is 80880lbs or just over 40 tons.
And btw, pi(r*r)h=v is also a good easy way to calculate it. Just the formula given above is the technical formula for figuring out the volume of timber.
Now to determine the cubic footage of a 60' tall 6' diameter tree. Well there are a ton of ways to do this but let me give you the correct way. =o)
Volume of Log = (L) x (G/4) x (G/4) = (1/4) x (1/4) x (L) x (G) x (G) = 0.0625 x (L) x (G) x (G)
L=length and G=girth=circumfrence=pi*d
So from the formula above we get 0.0625*60*18.8*18.8=1325.4 hoppus cubic feet or 26.508 hoppus cubic tons.
A hoppus ton is equal to rougly 1.8 cubic meters or 63.567 cubic feet. So 26.508*63.567=1685 cubic feet, roughly. So that is 80880lbs or just over 40 tons.
And btw, pi(r*r)h=v is also a good easy way to calculate it. Just the formula given above is the technical formula for figuring out the volume of timber.
clockworkjoe
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Another edit: I ruled that dropping a tree would be a ranged touch attack, and Maturak was flat footed for the attack. Also, the tree has a 6 foot diameter. It covers an entire square. It is pretty easy to hit someone with with an object that big.
all it makes me wish for is that i had thought to buy a few tree-shaped Quall's Feather Tokens for myself. 
hey, clockwork... whatever you decide on that ruling i asked for, post it here. i'm not retyping it because you might decide that it does something wholly different than the two options i considered.
hey, clockwork... whatever you decide on that ruling i asked for, post it here. i'm not retyping it because you might decide that it does something wholly different than the two options i considered.
clockworkjoe
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About Ancryx's resistances:
1. Ancryx had to use his christmas gift natural 20 to save from the Disint. spell.
2. I assumed Flesh to Stone doesn't work on undead, but I may be wrong. Is there an official ruling?
1. Ancryx had to use his christmas gift natural 20 to save from the Disint. spell.
2. I assumed Flesh to Stone doesn't work on undead, but I may be wrong. Is there an official ruling?
reapersaurus
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those are some pretty big House Rules you're dropping there, cj.clockworkjoe said:
To benefit Martok that much with House Rules ..... well, either Victim has a prodigious ability to hold his tongue for fear of you getting defensive and retributive, or he hasn't read it yet.
There are many rules questions over the years raised about dropping objects on people from great heights.
None of them have been answered in the rules.
[edit] Most people consider it twinky, newbie-tactics that shouldn't enter into most gameplay. [/editorial]
Your ruling that he's flat-footed is an insult to reality.
How do you drop a 60 tree on someone and be flat-footed?
The tree isn't invisible. It would take around 3 seconds for it to fall that distance (total guess)
And it's not a ranged touch attack - the tree is not a projectile weapon - its effectiveness in combat is COMPLETELY dependant on how it falls on Maturak.
It's just as likely that the tree buffets him with a couple limbs and the trunk hits the ground beside him.
There is NO way that the tree would do ALL its weight damage to the target - it's just not meant to be used that way.
Most importantly, you are ignoring the cardinal rule of DM'ing that I've heard people bring up in all these similar discussions over the years:
Do not allow something a greater in-game effect than the item is worth.
The Tree is a 100 gp token.
Minor magical item, a couple steps up from a dull grey ioun stone.
Now if you REALLY will brook no reasonable questions about the House Rules that you are trotting out, than just say so, and I will ask you no more questions.
But if you are trying your best to run a game that's close to reality, or close to 3E rules, than i would think that you would want to get them right, and be open to what the group's feelings are about what you rule.
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