New Game of Death: Battle Royale of the GAWDS

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bhaal and Azure - what the hell are you guys going on about?

Maybe you missed it, but that discussion is almost a month old.

This week has to do with Victim being victimized, me coming to his defense, other people agreeing, clockwork agreeing he flubbed it, and us continuing, hopefully with a resolution about the Tree of Death mistake.

Does it make you guys feel better to keep using me as a scapegoat, and ignoring the recent events?
If so, why don't you go over to Nutkinland and start a flame thread on me over there, leaving this thread free of things which there is no resolvement for, so we can concentrate on trying to enjoy the game?
 

reapersaurus said:
bhaal and Azure - what the hell are you guys going on about?

Obviously, it's a conspiracy against you. [pause] Have I posted anything after my initial query to which you responded? Why, yes, I did ...

Why is her hair shaped into bunny ears?

To which the obvious anwer was, of course, my azumanga daioh deficiency.

-=-

But since you included me anyway in your broadswipes, it's not just recent, and it's not a dead old month discussion, it's how you've been acting the entire game since it started. It's not just Victim, to whom CWJ agreed to change the rules to appease group opinion, but how you nitpicked over everything. First it was the Kobolds, and then it was how you made a fuss over him knowing someone in the game personally, and ooonwards it went. CWJ nerfed my powers. When Piratecat intervened it stopped ... thank god.

Temporarily. The next problem was when the Gods interfered with the boons and you blamed CWJ of running the game for himself. And again when he took out the Kobolds and Golems since they had no effect in the game.

Originally posted by reapersaurus
*throws up hands in exasperation*

Look, what does it matter if I'm not happy?
I'm glad you had the balls to say something, Seap, but really - clockwork can do no wrong, right, guys?

It's not like the kobold was within range of a certain charging, flying dragon-man...

but actually i think it's going to take me a week or 2 to care about it - the too-long delay has kind of sucked the interest out of me for the game, which I'm sure is best for all involved.


The above I think sums up a lot. You percieve CWJ as some overlord who can do what he wants (evil, thundering laugh) with impunity, and you haven't been happy with it at all as many of your posts indicate since you think that he's isolating you as his personal punching bag. As you felt below:

I don't know... everything I sent to you, everything I had Jade do, you presented some reason why it didn't work, so....think about it from my side, for a second : why would I think anything else than you didn't want her out of the Cage?

But ... no one else seems to share that view, except in the case of the tree token, to which CWJ agreed there was a better way and changed his ruling.

If so, why don't you go over to Nutkinland and start a flame thread on me over there, leaving this thread free of things which there is no resolvement for, so we can concentrate on trying to enjoy the game?

Exactly. It's a game. It has to be enjoyed, by the players, by CWJ, and by the people who are reading it (like me). As Bhaal stated in his conclusion:

My point is this: If you have a problem with a judgement, fine, but don't debase your argument by debasing the judge. It hurts the game, it damages trust, and it takes out all the fun. We're here to have fun, right?
 

you have the personal choice to bring up past actions, if you want, but I have purposely dropped past issues because people have stated they don't want to hear them on this thread.
And you ARE bringing up topics that are over a month old, and are played out: In my memory, I have only responded to other's words the past month.
(I just checked : in over a month, I responded to Saepiroth agreeing that i didn't like the kobold disappearing, then replied to clockwork's posts directly. (I'm not responding to your comments about these REPLIES - email me if you wish)
Then I defended Victim's victimization, which helped the game, no?)

So why don't you email me if you would like to continue any personal discussion?
It shows VERY bad form on people's parts to call me on things, and then complain about me responding, then blaming me for bringing them up again.
"reapersaurus can't let things lie" "reapersaurus took my fun and went home with it"

You're right, though, that you didn't reply twice about it (that was Bhall). I combined you 2 in 1 reply to make it more general - maybe I should have seperated your 2 outsider's comments, but forgive me if I lumped your 2 very similar comments together.

So let me address Anyone that wants to talk about early December's discussions:
email me OFF the thread, and I'd be glad to discuss every word I posted.
 

to get this page back on track, I think that the issue on the table was the current ruling that the Tree of Death maneuver will be able to repeatedly do 20d6 damage, Reflex save for half as many times as Berk wants to.

since people don't like the way I word things, I'll just quote:
Hammerhead said:
Martok just bought a couple 100gp trees and started dropping them, neither building his character around it nor severely limiting his options. The only real surprise in such a maneuver, since every week or so someone talks about dropping lead balls from flight to kill dragons or something equally stupid, is that clockwork joe allowed such a cheesy maneuver.

Even as a Reflex half effect, the trees allow brutal damage at very low cost. If I join the next game of death, I expect everyone will start dropping those things on all non-rogues. Maybe everyone should just seal themselves off with walls of force to prevent "Death from Above."
would anyone like to put their 2 cents in about this issue, or what clockwork responded:
As for the 10d6 damage being unfair, I don't see how it is. You could have pulled the same thing with a bag of boulders or even an extra large bag of holding and some anvils. Hell, someone could have bought 20 bags of holding and filled each bag with acid and then telekinesised it overy Maturak's head. Dropping very large things over someone's head isn't very hard to do in 3E D&D and it is very very damaging.
I believe that's the CURRENT discussion - all of us being mutually concerned about the impact (pun intended) of rulings, and worrying that the TreeofDeath maneuver unbalances the game, and leads to uninteresting tactics.

clockwork, it's probably moot now though, right?
I don't think that Martok's move this Round can be changed, and as long as Berk doesn't use 100 gp ammunition again this Game, it's only an academic problem, right?
Single-use tricks can be fun and all, but used repeatedly... :(
 

I am standing by my current ruling of the tree drop trick. Attacker must be at least 65 feet above the target (tree is 60 feet high) 20d6 damage, ranged touch attack with a -10 penalty to hit, DC 20 listen or spot check and DC 10 reflex save, 1 success = half damage, both succeed = no damage. IT IS NOT AUTOMATICALLY 10d6 DAMAGE. DO YOU UNDERSTAND THE WORDS THAT ARE COMING OUT OF MY MOUTH?

And again, as for the 100 GP magic item being too powerful, I point you to Piratecat's story hour as evidence that the token is very powerful when used properly.
 

you're right - i forgot in my recap that it's not automatic - it just requires cross-class skills with a high DC.

No need to yell the funny Chris Tucker reference - tho, if you had a pic of that posted, it'd be funnier. ;)

I'm just trying to keep this thread on-topic, and applicable to the game as it is going on right now.
I am rather surprised you'd use one guy's Storyhour as justification for House Rules.
I won't state my opinion of the ruling, or point out the problems I see with it.

If noone else comments, than the TreeofDeath maneuver is apparently golden.

Yet more current events:
I'll save Number47 a post, and ask his typical question (which I share this time):
Why hasn't Rale Hawkeye's and Zalilad's actions been posted - it's over 24 hours, right?
It's kind of funny that the 2 guys that are Dominated and Held are taking the max time for their actions...
 

Just a few thoughts... in case anyone cares what the dwarf thinks :D

I think, that the adjusted rules are for the tree O'Death are fine, also I think the Gawd's probably got a laugh outta the whole thing the first time thru. (as I said on the site, OUCH) Also I can't see them letting this type of attack continue as it will spoil their fun.

JDragon

AKA - Harsel - who is glad hes just fighting some guy with a whip. :cool:
 

reapersaurus said:
Why hasn't Rale Hawkeye's and Zalilad's actions been posted - it's over 24 hours, right?
It's kind of funny that the 2 guys that are Dominated and Held are taking the max time for their actions...
actually, it's only been about 16 hours since the last move was posted. they still have eight hours to mail their move. i'm also still dominated, too, about as much as zalilad still is. both of us have the same amount of protection against the effects of our domination.

besides, CWJ isn't a slave to the goddamned game. be patient.
 
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Yeah, I figured that he must have had a full day at work today. I expect we will get updates when he gets home from work. I assume he has a regular job, at least.
 

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