D&D (2024) New leak looks real bad

I dunno - what stuff? I mean, I pay almost that much for my Apple Music family subscription. My various streaming services add up to way more than that. I probably go to about one movie/month, which is more than that. Oh, and I read a lot, so I spend at least that much on books. And you don't even wanna know what I spend on miniatures and terrain.
There's a bit of a difference between gaming books and everything else you've mentioned. Each book, movie, TV show, game, piece of music--they're all individual, separate things. Even if they're part of a series, they're mostly still separate entities. But all your gaming books add together, meaning you're not getting a new and completely different piece of media, you're getting additional archetypes or additional spells or additional monsters for the same game, and you'll end up having the fighter class and thirty archetypes for it (there are currently 10 of 'em), a thousand different bard spells (currently over 500), and fifty different types of goblins (currently over 20).

Sure, maybe you would really enjoy having thirty different fighters archetypes, or even a hundred different fighter archetypes, and that's cool. And maybe you can even use all of those archetypes in your game. Personally, though, there comes a time when I say "I think I have everything I need for this system and anything else would just be too much."

Long story short: $30/month is not much money.
Well, maybe not for you. But considering that that alternative is, and always has been, free, it's a huge hike in price.

So if someone wants to buy this and you don't, I don't even know why you think you should have an opinion about it. Are there other ways that you want to tell them how to live their lives, or is it just when it comes to paying for D&D subscriptions?
I am allowed to have an opinion as to how a company sells their products.

What I was actually saying was "is WotC putting out stuff that's going to be worth $30 a month?" $30 is most of a 5e hardcover book. Even considering that some of that $30 is for just paying for access to the tools and equipment, and some of a hardcover book's cost is printing, I'd still expect to get half a book's worth of material every month. But I have a sneaking suspicion that they won't give that much. And, well, look at what they put out for Spelljammer, where they didn't include the 2e lore or make up new lore to take its place, like they did with Ravenloft. They didn't even include space combat, there was barely any player material in it, their monster entries were short, boring, and also stripped of lore, and several of the monsters got turned into pure combat beasts.

All I can say is that I don't trust WotC to put out $30 worth of high-quality material each and every single month.

If you trust them, great. I truly and sincerely hope that I'm wrong and that they do, in fact, put out quality material every month, that they're not going to take away people's ability to play on other platforms, and that they're not going to make it difficult to play in person around a table. At this moment, though, I just can't trust them.


You don't get it thought.

We don't know how many tiers there are and they offer.
That is true.

We do not know if they is a tier between $0 and $30. We do not know if what the 2-87 tiers unlock.
I'm pretty sure that they don't have 87 tiers. I would be shocked if they even had four tiers. I can see them having a middle tier between free and $30, but I really doubt they'll do more than that.

So, how can I have a problem with something I don't know about?

That's my point. It's ridiculous to worry about the price of a product you do not know about.
You don't have an anxiety disorder, do you?
 

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Note that he has been unable to verify this with any of his sources.

He's hearing it from multiple independent sources, most of which (Roll for Combat, D&D Shorts, Ginny Di) are impeccable, but sure let's pretend this is unfounded clickbait.

I'm not calling anybody a Hasbro shill but this is exactly how a Hasbro shill would act.
 
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LOL no, you replied to me, remember? LINK (my laughing is no disrespect intended it was just a genuinely funny "Who's on first?" moment, which I've done myself before.)
yeah that one still made sense, at least to me :)

Guess we do not really have to continue this, at a minimum by now we seem to have lost the thread ;)
 

Because they're probably going to include language that any Homebrew you add to your DDB becomes part of a "Homebrew Library" that everyone can access and you get no cash from. Turning your labor (Both in creating Homebrew and integrating it into the DDB system) into free value for Wizards.
Isn't that already the case, though? I know there's tons on homebrew on DDB that's available for anyone.

The problem would be if WotC says that they then owned anything you put on DDB.
 

Has Linda Codega or a journalist confirmed any of this? Who confirmed this? How accurate have they been? Do we have links to where they state they had their own sources?

I'm only catching this up but despite everything, I am skeptical of pretty much anything now. All the major leaks got confirmed by Linda pretty quickly...
 

Has Linda Codega or a journalist confirmed any of this? Who confirmed this? How accurate have they been? Do we have links to where they state they had their own sources?

I'm only catching this up but despite everything, I am skeptical of pretty much anything now. All the major leaks got confirmed by Linda pretty quickly...
No. Linda has warned off several folks that they can’t talk about it or won’t. Until they have put out a piece, I think.
 

I'm not calling anybody a Hasbro shill but this is exactly how a Hasbro shill would act.

Mod Note:
"I'm not being insulting, but here's this insulting thing I'm going to leave here," is kind of transparent.

Let us keep ourselves cleaner than that, please and thanks.
 



You don't have an anxiety disorder, do you?
No.

I'm from NYC and worked in corporate. It caused me to have a noticeable but healthy level of cynicism due to all the people trying to sell me the Brooklyn. Bridge daily

People forget that internet content creators are incentivized to exaggerate the info they have.
 

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