New Monster Swordwing!

[Gold Roger]

These would be cool as mid paragon threats. But I just don't see them as epic foes.

I mean "Where on our way to conquor hell! But first we must beet those Insekt people we are evenly matched against." just doesn't bring home the awesome.

 

[webrunner]

fly 10 (hover)
Armblade (standard; at-will)
Reach 2; +31 vs. AC; 2d6 + 10 damage (crit 2d6 + 22) plus an extra 2d6 damage if the crownwing is flanking the target.
Flyby Attack (standard; at-will)
The crownwing flies up to 10 squares and makes one melee basic attack at any point during that movement. The crownwing doesn’t provoke opportunity attacks when moving away from the target of the attack.

This thing can, every turn:
Move action: fly 10 squares
Standard action: Flyby attack which lets it fly another 20 squares AND use armblade at some point. If it's 11 squares away from something it can fly 10 squares to, attack with reach 2, then fly 10 squares away. That's pretty keen.

 

[Mustrum_Ridcully]

SWORDschwing!

How do you like Klingenschwinge?

 

[hong]

Klingon schwing?

 

[med stud]

fly 10 (hover)
Armblade (standard; at-will)
Reach 2; +31 vs. AC; 2d6 + 10 damage (crit 2d6 + 22) plus an extra 2d6 damage if the crownwing is flanking the target.
Flyby Attack (standard; at-will)
The crownwing flies up to 10 squares and makes one melee basic attack at any point during that movement. The crownwing doesn’t provoke opportunity attacks when moving away from the target of the attack.

This thing can, every turn:
Move action: fly 10 squares
Standard action: Flyby attack which lets it fly another 20 squares AND use armblade at some point. If it's 11 squares away from something it can fly 10 squares to, attack with reach 2, then fly 10 squares away. That's pretty keen.

Unless they fly by a fighter with a reach weapon that can stop it in it's track. I like the visual of a fighter with a spear slamming the crownwing to the ground .

 

[Just Another User]

Thematically I agree, but I'm guessing their flight abilities have a lot to do with their placement in the Epic tier.

I don't see why, sure they fly but a good number of base classes have ranged attacks with good damage, and if swordwings use their reach to saty out of normal melee (but not all) they can't use their sudden strike power, that works only against adiacent enemies, and they can't do AOs (no Threatening Reach, or what was its name) so an enemy can just move away, the only reason they are Epic is because they have a lot of hit points and high defenses, which is another way to say they are epic because they are high level. Take a kobold give him 250 hp and defense in the 30-40 range increase a little the damage, and he become epic, too.

 

[Just Another User]

So does their Swordwing marking do anything? Is it only there to remove the Crownwing's marking? Which would make it odd that Crownwings are better suited to leading creatures that don't mark on every hit.

But the Mark of death is not a Marking ability. See, it don't says the target is Marked.

 

[Just Another User]

It has a sword for an arm, and it has wings. Let's call it... a swordwing. I'm fairly pro-4E, but these monster names... ouch.

When I read the name I tought it had to be a flying sword. With wings. Heck, D&D had worse monsters. Actually I think a monster like that existed in some previous edtion.

 

[Pssthpok]

Well, now we know there are gibbering orbs in 4e.

 

[Plane Sailing]

Well, now we know there are gibbering orbs in 4e.

Arguably the gibbering orb art preview might have spilt the beans there though