New SRD Errata

[Kesh]

It's not dumbness. It's in the file PowerList. No "psionic" at all in the name, so I thought it was some divine powers thing... nope.

 

[Endur]

The SRD editor just cuts and pastes text. He does not update stuff to 3.5. There is lots of 3.0 stuff still in the SRD.

Geez... have these guys even *read* 3.5? I mean, really, they've been out for a long time now, and those are a couple very basic changes that everyone who plays should know.

 

[James McMurray]

It's not dumbness. It's in the file PowerList. No "psionic" at all in the name, so I thought it was some divine powers thing... nope.

It appears to have not made it into the Psioncs zip file either, unless it was added in the last couple of days.

 

[The Souljourner]

The SRD editor just cuts and pastes text. He does not update stuff to 3.5. There is lots of 3.0 stuff still in the SRD.

Then either the materials should have been marked as 3.0, or they should not have been published to the website. The title of the page is "Revised (v.3.5)
System Reference Document".

-The Souljourner

 

[tauton_ikhnos]

Then either the materials should have been marked as 3.0, or they should not have been published to the website. The title of the page is "Revised (v.3.5) System Reference Document".

And until it gets updated in a published book, 3.0 material is considered to be part of 3.5. Whether it is or not, is not the fault of the guy making all of this stuff available to the rest of us via the SRD.

 

[Ranger REG]

Then either the materials should have been marked as 3.0, or they should not have been published to the website. The title of the page is "Revised (v.3.5)
System Reference Document".

If they had not published it to the website, no publisher (professional and amateur) could use it. As a publisher, Souljourner, do you have difficulty distinguishing the document? :\

Do you have tremendous difficulty using the Divine sections with the 3.5e ruleset?

 

[Silveras]

If they had not published it to the website, no publisher (professional and amateur) could use it. As a publisher, Souljourner, do you have difficulty distinguishing the document? :\

Do you have tremendous difficulty using the Divine sections with the 3.5e ruleset?

I think we are looking at an expectation problem here.

The SRD reflects published content being made available to other publishers for re-use. The use of the SRD by individual consumers is an incidental side-effect, really. The Deities & Demigods book has not been revised for 3.5, therefore, its content in the SRD has not been, either. End users are free to download the 3.5 Update Booklet from the Wizards web site and see what should be changed.

Would I like to see it updated for 3.5 as part of the SRD ? Sure. I would also like to see the missing table of Container Capacity, which was accidentally cut from the Players Handbook, put back in. The only way its continuing absence makes sense is if the SRD reflects not the rules as they should be, but rather as they are in print.

 

[Alzrius]

From the FYI: SRD update today thread:

Well, it looks like they haven't errata-d the psionics stuff. For example, the Blue (monsters file) still has LA +0 in the chart but LA +1 in the description.

It would seem that the Divine Domains and Spells file has not received the 3.5 update mentioned in the update booklet. For example, the 4th level spell for the Charm domain is still the Emotion spell, which no longer exists.

Also, some of the domains have received different updates in some cases, such as the Repose domain, which switches Deathwatch out for a different spell which I cannot remember now, since Deathwatch is now an Evil spell.

A list of the new SRD domains, and the books where they might have been reworked (I don't have all of the books, so they might not have really changed ):

ARTIFICE DOMAIN
CHARM DOMAIN
COMMUNITY DOMAIN - Reworked in CD
CREATION DOMAIN - Reworked in CD
DARKNESS DOMAIN - Maybe reworked in PGtF
GLORY DOMAIN - Reworked in BoED and Draco; The BoED version is vastly different from the Draco version and less player-friendly
LIBERATION DOMAIN - Reworked in CD
MADNESS DOMAIN - Reworked in CD
NOBILITY DOMAIN - Reworked in CW, maybe PGtF
REPOSE DOMAIN - Reworked in PGtF
RUNE DOMAIN - Maybe reworked in PGtF
SCALYKIND DOMAIN - Maybe reworked in PGtF
WEATHER DOMAIN - Reworked in CD

...

Looking through the Divine Abilities and Feats file, I noticed two feats that were not updated to their 3.5 equivalent:

Divine Vengeance should be updated to Sacred Vengeance, from Complete Warrior.

Energy Substitution should be updated to Energy Affinity, from Miniature Handbook.

 

[Pax]

I should still be clearly labelled as 3.0 content. Otherwise, WOTC is in essence setting up third-party publishers to published rules that contain erroneous references to 3.0 rules which no longer exist, yet claim to be 3.5e compliant.

 

[The Souljourner]

As a publisher, Souljourner, do you have difficulty distinguishing the document?

Do you have tremendous difficulty using the Divine sections with the 3.5e ruleset?

Yes and yes. Obviously I had trouble distinguishing the document, because I started my rant about how many errors there were in it. I expected it to be 3.5 compliant, because it was labelled as such.

And yes, I have difficulty (ok, maybe not tremendous, but all the same...) using some of the rules with 3.5. Should a deity be able to deflect every single incoming ranged attack automatically? I don't know... the 3.0 ability required a save. Granted, that save was fairly easy, but spells and highly magical weapons could make it more difficult. Now there is no difficulty, it just works. There's a huge difference between DC 29 reflex save and "just works". And that's my point. So many things have been altered in 3.5, how can anything made for 3.0 really be taken at face value?

-The Souljourner