No buzz for the 2011 Campaign Setting?

[Zaran]

You know, I'm still fairly surprised that they haven't come out with a setting based on Magic: The Gathering.

I'd like to see this as well. There is alot of backstory out their for it. Interesting monsters as well.

 

[Celestian]

People also still watch Days of Our Lives. Doesn't necessarily make it any good.

Take it easy friend, I was not insulting Greyhawk. I have nothing against Greyhawk. Just pointing out that just because something has had a following for 30 years, doesn't necessarily make it good - which was the point of the guy whose post I replied to.

I am truly sorry if you in any way found it offensive, it was not the intent.

The fact you were comparing GH to Days of our Lives isn't what bothered me. It's that you tried to dismiss the thought of a GH setting by saying its just as "good" as some Soap.... Which is the exact same thing someone could say for the D&D game as a whole. It's pretty insulting to anyone that plays D&D or GH.

You might think why do Dark Sun? Heck I don't know a single person that even knows about DS (2nd ed or 4th) other than me in my group but obviously they think there is a fan base for it.

I'm going to keep my fingers crossed for Dragonlance or even Oriental Adventures though my hopes on that have been dashed I think.

I can't imagine what they'll do... I'm guessing they are going for a "different variety" of settings after they picked something like DS. Who knows, maybe it'll be Ravenloft.

 

[renau1g]

I actually kind of hope no Ravenloft, the 4e rules mechanics are too forgiving for that setting to properly instill the kind of fear that the setting requires. Well...unless they come up with some pretty cool rules for it, but I have my reservations.

 

[Jack99]

The fact you were comparing GH to Days of our Lives isn't what bothered me. It's that you tried to dismiss the thought of a GH setting by saying its just as "good" as some Soap.... Which is the exact same thing someone could say for the D&D game as a whole. It's pretty insulting to anyone that plays D&D or GH.

You might think why do Dark Sun? Heck I don't know a single person that even knows about DS (2nd ed or 4th) other than me in my group but obviously they think there is a fan base for it.

Sorry if I bothered you, but you are reading too much into my (funny) comment. Maybe it's a language thing, but I thought I was pretty clear. But let me restate something.

It was not meant as an insult to neither GH nor D&D...

Cheers

 

[DracoSuave]

I'll wait and see.

No news is... well... no news.

Dark Sun wasn't mentioned until they released Eberron. They'll probably wait until Dark Sun is released before they announce the next setting. Nothing new here.

 

[Lord_Blacksteel]

One man's musings - I think if you're looking at the older settings, you need to look at what makes them special and how would it be handled for 4th:

-Dragonlance - Epic storyline, lots of Dragons, high fantasy + magic weapons at the center of the major story...I see a lot of potential, but what was the favorite part of Dragonlance for most of the fans? The original storyline and that's pretty much it. So how would you handle it in 4th? Reboot. One book, "The world of Dragonlance" and one book "The Dragonlance Campaign" that would let players play through the original war of the lance. I could see this happening as both a return to a more typical fantasy world after Dark Sun this year and as part of a nostalgia movement gearing up at WOTC (Red Box Essentials, Tomb of Horrors, Gamma World, etc)

-Spelljammer - Very different, lots more planar-adventure opportunities and a possible coolness factor since it's been OOP for quite a while. It might be a reach as we're getting a "different" kind of campaign with DS this year. It would fit the World Book/Monster Book pattern very well. I think it would be cool but I'm not sure I'd see it as very likely.

-Ravenloft - Well vampires are trendy now, but not old-school creepy vamps. It's kind of a nostalgia thing, but more because of the single adventure rather than a campaign world. I think it would be tougher to make 4E characters fit into a domains of dread-style horror type game both mechanically and atmospherically. I don't know that I see this happening anytime soon. Plus this is partially covered with the boardgame, at least some of the nostalgia aspect is.

-Mystara - I played it but it's awfully similar to Greyhawk and the Realms and probably has less popularity/nostalgia than either. I can't see it making the grade right now as a separate campaign world.

- Birthright - Epic possibilities but it would need some kind of rules to run a domain and rules for mass combat. That would be cool but it's a pretty big change in focus from standard D&D. Without those things I think Birthright loses a lot of it's specialness.

- Greyhawk - This is the one I would rate as "likely" at this point. Nostalgia, fits with traditional D&D concepts(some of which 4E runs away from, admittedly) but when we have Giants last year, Tomb of Horros and a Red Box basic set this year, a Gamma World game coming out, MM3 includes a bunch of old-school monsters - all of that screams "Nostalgia" to me and Greyhawk fits right in there, more than any other to me. It seems to me that the 2010-2011 Gen Con year seems to be the year WOTC is making a push to reclaim the lapsed/disgruntled D&D player. After that I expect they will move forward, possibly with a whole new world.

 

[knightofround]

If the "new" setting is Greyhawk, I'd probably stab my eyes out in boredom.

Ravenloft...I loved Ravenloft, but its just not the right fit for 4E at all.

Birthright, Mystara, only slightly better than Greyhawk.

Spelljammer, Al'Quadim, Planescape, a little more interesting...but I doubt there's much of a player base for these settings.

Dragonlance...I certainly hope not, not after what the treatment FR got. I don't want yet another cataclysm.

I think going with Dark Sun was a nice way to spend a setting on nostalgia, two would be going overboard.

Given how incredibly successful Eberron has been, I don't see why they wouldn't go with another new setting. 4E needs something to revitalize the landscape like Eberron did for 3.5E.

 

[Redshirt]

I would love it if they would have another campaign setting contest. If they just released it as a PDF it would keep the costs down but still give the fans the thrill of an "Official" setting.

 

[Klaus]

I hope it's not Dragonlance and here's my reason why:

Forgotten Realms.

If you want to see a 4e DL setting, expect another cataclysm soon.

And yet Eberron had no cataclysmic event and Dark Sun pretty much reverted to the original boxed set.

 

[filthgrinder]

And yet Eberron had no cataclysmic event and Dark Sun pretty much reverted to the original boxed set.

Exactly. Eberron had no cataclysm, and Dark Sun was "uncataclysmed" from the earlier edition.

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