D&D 4E No more reprints of the 4E core books?

[ggroy]

From Black Diamond Games | Facebook

Just talked to my WOTC contact: It's a fine distinction and not news, but they are not re-printing the core books. They have an enormous quantity of them in stock, so they don't NEED to re-print them. There is no intention of phasing them out. They will not be disappearing from store shelves anytime soon.

 

[vagabundo]

From Black Diamond Games | Facebook

I'd love if the do reprint in the future that they stick revised on the front and include the errata....

But, still, I suppose "/thread" is appropriate...

 

[Tchelo]

Got response from Wizards press team

While we cannot discuss printing plans for our RPG products, I can tell you that the Essentials product is completely compatible with our core rulebooks, and Wizards will continue to support all of the 4th Edition rules. We’re very excited about the Essentials products, and will be sharing more information about them closer to their launch.

 

[cdrcjsn]

From Black Diamond Games | Facebook

Thank goodness for Black Diamond Games (an excellent store btw, highly recommended).

Everyone else that heard this rumor seemed to have just run around screaming the sky is falling.

BDG is the only one I saw to actually bother to call someone at WotC to verify this rumor.

Still, this speaks volumes about WotC's cred with internet players at the moment that they would accept this as something that WotC would do.

 

[Greatwyrm]

Still, this speaks volumes about WotC's cred with internet players at the moment that they would accept this as something that WotC would do.

Like I said earlier, their only problem has been communication. And it really goes all the way back to the 4e release. Three-ish years ago, when it was announced, it was all the same stuff. Someone in marketing needs to have their head examined.

 

[UngeheuerLich]

No, this time communication is not really the problem... they told a lot, it is just that they are ignored or every word is twisted...

it needs at least two people for communication to work... and folks here just draw strange conclusions... sometimes just from rumors...

it is more than a month away and we get previews a.k.a. teasers... normal business... give a little finger... more is coming on gen con i believe...

edit: we are a minority... a loud one, but a minority nonetheless, developers should always keep this in mind...

 

[Philosopher]

No, this time communication is not really the problem... they told a lot, it is just that they are ignored or every word is twisted...

Or maybe some people don't like what WotC is doing/publishing.

 

[Dannyalcatraz]

Well, this thread has convinced me of one thing...I may just have to buy my backup copy of the 4Ed PHB1 a lot sooner than planned.

 

[Stormonu]

Well, this thread has convinced me of one thing...I may just have to buy my backup copy of the 4Ed PHB1 a lot sooner than planned.

Nah, from the Black Diamond twitter, it sounds like they'll have plenty of copies to come for years. And there's always e-bay (Personally, I just replaced my worn, finally-falling-apart copy of 1E DMG with a new, unused copy*) for less than I bought it in it's heyday.

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On my own side notes for older augmentation to editions; I came into AD&D right about the time UA came out. Paladins got some noticable changes as they became a subclass of cavalier, as well as many hefty racial level changes and allowed class / combo changes. Then, there was the barbarian and many of the spells wizards take for granted got added to the game (like Mage Armor). Most of this stuff had been previously seen in Dragon Magazine. Yeah, the changes were very noticeable - and more than a mere splatbook's worth. Looking back, it was definitely 1E's .5 edition.

In 2E, the Player's Option was touted with a strong emphasis on "option". Some of it (especially items in Spells & Power) were incompatible in the same game. As far as I can remember only one official module (Firestorm Peak) and one Dungeon Magazine module actually incorporated PO stuff - TSR was very careful to make sure it was not "required". It also attempted to "stealth errata" material, such as kits and psionics. Looking back, it was certainly 2.5, though the approach was nothing like 3.5 - especially in the fact you still needed the original PHB/DMG/MM.

Overall, I get the sense that the essentials line is a stab of sorts at 4.5 in that it is an attempt to incorporate new updates to previously printed core material. Moreso though, it strikes me as the start of a repackaging model, almost as if it were incorporating GW's rules as one book, and classes/races as "codexes" (It's also the model White Wolf uses now for WoD, and Savage Worlds uses for its rules + plot point campaigns). WotC's the "game titan", and like all titans, it takes some time and effort to wind up to what the little guys are doing - but once it gets started, it tends to roll everyone else over (with innovation).

* I'll never play 1E again, but I like to read the old gal from time to time.

 

[Jack99]

While we cannot discuss printing plans for our RPG products, I can tell you that the Essentials product is completely compatible with our core rulebooks, and Wizards will continue to support all of the 4th Edition rules. We’re very excited about the Essentials products, and will be sharing more information about them closer to their launch.

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