No mouth-to-mouth necessary in CPR


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Heard a report on this on the radio this morning. They were quoting a US authority, who was rather skeptical about this study -- if you aren't getting mouth-to-mouth as well as CPR, you aren't getting oxygen, and that'll kill you, even if someone is giving you heart massage to circulate your blood. He indicated that he wanted to see additional research before he'd recommend against giving mouth-to-mouth.
 

Main thing to remember here is that you are still obliged to perform CPR the way you were certified...you are not allowed to deviate from the process on your own volition. If 'they' change the process, you must take the class and be certified under the new procedure or else you put yourself at risk of being willfully negligent.

I still think that manual inflation is necessary and will not change my thinking until the AHA or ARC change their CPR instructions.
 

krunchyfrogg said:
Yay, the chances of somebody living if they have a heart attack just got better (incase there's a germaphobe like myself around :p)

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Dude, just wear a "DNR" bracelet and I won't touch you when you collapse. :]

Either that or I could shove a leaf blower in your mouth.
 

The article stated mouth to mouth may not be necessary for Cardiac Arrest situations only.

Unless one is a trained professional medical type, how do you know, beyond a doubt, the person on the ground in need of CPR is suffering from some form of Cardiac Arrest. I imagine one can't tell (for certain), unless they just so happened to have the proper diagnostic equipment on hand in such a circumstance, trained medical professional or not.
 

krunchyfrogg said:
Yay, the chances of somebody living if they have a heart attack just got better (incase there's a germaphobe like myself around :p)

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Actually, there are barriers you can buy to use if you're concerned about germs while giving mouth to mouth. The simple ones are flat bits of plastic with a tube that fits into the person's mouth, and there are more complex ones that are like masks and have one-way valves to breath through. If you're CPR certified, but concerned about contagions, look into one.
 

werk said:
Main thing to remember here is that you are still obliged to perform CPR the way you were certified...you are not allowed to deviate from the process on your own volition. If 'they' change the process, you must take the class and be certified under the new procedure or else you put yourself at risk of being willfully negligent.

I still think that manual inflation is necessary and will not change my thinking until the AHA or ARC change their CPR instructions.

Very correct and if you fear certain disease / blood there are face sheet that can be placed over the recipiants face that blocks the majority of flem / blood / whatever but freely allows air flow.

I have one in my "First Responder" kit for work.
 


MonkeyDragon said:
Actually, there are barriers you can buy to use if you're concerned about germs while giving mouth to mouth. The simple ones are flat bits of plastic with a tube that fits into the person's mouth, and there are more complex ones that are like masks and have one-way valves to breath through. If you're CPR certified, but concerned about contagions, look into one.
I carry one in my glove compartment. But what if something happens in a restaurant or church or something? I don't carry it with me all the time.
 

krunchyfrogg said:
I carry one in my glove compartment. But what if something happens in a restaurant or church or something? I don't carry it with me all the time.

Some, like this one for instance, http://www.hslt.net/document.asp?subnodeid=7501316 are small enough to fit in your wallet. Ta-da!



I don't have one, but I'm also no longer certified. If I were in a situation where there was NO ONE more qualified to help, I would either improvise something or take the risk. The chances that the person has a really nasty bug that I could get orally are lower than the chance that s/he would die if nobody helped.

Now what I really need to do is get my butt to the red cross and get recertified.
 

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