No smoking...

[Kanegrundar]

Mojo, can you just go past the bar that allows smoking for the one that doesn't? I don't see why EVERY place needs to be non-smoking.

Just so you know, I don't get to smoke in my own house. I go out to the breezeway. I smoke outside the few times that I smoke at work. I'm extremely careful about smoking around non-smokers, but when I go to my favorite bar, one that is frequented mostly by smokers, and has always allowed smoking I don't want to suddenly have to go outside to light up. Everyone that goes to Tanner's knows what to expect when they go in, and if they don't know they find out as soon as they walk in. If they don't like, they can take a hike. There are a couple bars very close to Tanner's that have the same atmosphere and are smoke-free.

Kane

 

[Mr. Lobo]

This is where I'm gonna leave this, since I don't want to start anything is, I know smokers. There's a lot in my residence, who go to the front doors for a smoke. Not always, but they're there. I don't mind it, since I don't stand there. And it's not like smokers need to smoke ALL the time. Can't they take a smoke before they go out, and then one after?

Emphasis mine.

I go out to smoke. Why?

Because I don't want to pollute the inside of my house with smoke!!!

Tooshay

edit - I ran my own stop sign. oops

 

[Crothian]

Ya, we are having the smoking bans in Ohio to....and yet I can carry a concealed weapon to these places. Personally, I like the smoking ban.

 

[the Jester]

My town has no smoking within 20' of the entrance to a business unless you're moving 5 mph (fast walk).

During some community events (Whole Earth Festival, Picnic Day) it's pretty much illegal to smoke downtown at all.

 

[Kanegrundar]

REG, I'm sorry for your loss, but it doesn't change the fact that if you go someplace, like a bar, that allows smoking that's your problem. If we're outside or in a restaruant that has both smoking and non-smoking sections and my smoke bothers you, I'll gladly respect your distaste of smoking and put it out or move. However, not every place has to bend to the will of the non-smokers.

Kane

 

[Mystery Man]

People who like the smoking ban have very valid reasons for wanting it. Tobacco is addictive and dangerous, and you must understand that these are the first steps to making tobacco illegal. While those who hate smokers will think this is a good thing they don't understand that this is how your freedoms are taken away. Little by little. A ban here, a prohibited sign there. Pretty soon you can't do anything anywhere, your freedoms are gone and you can't remember when the last time was you could do anything. What happens when certain DnD books or video games are banned? Eventually all books having anything in reference to withcraft or spells or anything deemed "dangerous" are watered down or even gone. I imagine having certain freedoms taken away that you love will hit you where you live and you'll be singing a different tune.

All I'm sayin' is, be careful what you let them take away from you.

 

[Kanegrundar]

It's all a matter of compromise. Smokers should respect the desires of non-smokers (sure, there will always be pricks, but those are few compared to the respectful many), but non-smokers shouldn't complain when they put themselves into places where they know they will face a ton of smoke. With more and more bars and restaurants (about the only two places that allow smoking these days) becoing smoke-free it shouldn't be an issue to avoid the few places that do allow smoking.

Kane

 

[mojo1701]

I'm just saying that if you're gonna smoke, please don't do it near me. I don't like the smell, I don't like the effects. I don't mind if, say, there's a group outside smoking, but if I'm in a restaurant or a bar that is virtually smoke-free, and someone lights up...

 

[Kanegrundar]

I'm just saying that if you're gonna smoke, please don't do it near me. I don't like the smell, I don't like the effects. I don't mind if, say, there's a group outside smoking, but if I'm in a restaurant or a bar that is virtually smoke-free, and someone lights up...

That's fine. I have no problem with not smoking in a bar that doesn't allow it or the clientelle doesn't smoke much. All I'm saying is if someone walks into my favorite bar, that's always smoky, and gives me crap about having a smoke they can take a walk. Opposite sides of the same coin. It's all about being considerate.

Kane

 

[Lasher Dragon]

[RANT] What really pisses me off about the whole smoking issue is that all these big tobacco companies got sued for billions of dollars and not one damn dime of it went to help smokers quit. I read somewhere once that smoking is 5 times more addictive than crack. Even a crack addict can go somewhere for (probably free) help. The government keeps raising taxes on smokers and the smokers keep paying more because they are addicted - and of course the government knows this.
All these "Truth" ads really make me want to slap someone... they are so hypocritical to me. All the money spent on airtime for those worthless blurbs could just as well have gone to research in helping break the addictive cycle of nicotine - or at the very least lower the price of nicotine substitutes like the patch. As it is now Nicoderm is $40 for 2 weeks... that is insane. IIRC the Nicoderm system is supposed to be like 12 weeks long.
Anyway, I quit smoking two weeks ago this Sunday. Don't congratulate me, because I am using a patch (not Nicoderm, off-brand that's $10 cheaper) and to me saying I quit smoking is like an alcoholic saying he quit drinking - when now he justs injects the alcohol. I mean, I'm still getting nicotine everyday.[/RANT]

Sorry hadda get on the soapbox for a sec...