Nobody fights creatures with Infernal Wounding?

[Celtavian]

Infernal Wound (Su): The damage a horned devil deals with its tail attack causes a persistent wound. An injured creature loses 2 additional hit points each round. The wound does not heal naturally and resists healing spells. The continuing hit point loss can be stopped by a DC 24 Heal check, a cure spell, or a heal spell. However, a character attempting to cast a cure spell or a heal spell on a creature damaged by a horned devil’s tail must succeed on a DC 24 caster level check, or the spell has no effect on the injured character. A successful Heal check automatically stops the continuing hit point loss as well as restoring hit points. The check DC is Constitution-based.

We've been running up against creatures with Infernal Wounding lately, basically Cornugon's and Barbazu's. I was wondering how DM's arbitrate this ability as far as the damage is concerned.

Do you make the wounds cumulative per successful attack? For example, say a person is attacked by 4 Barbazu and struck 6 times with their glaives, the victim would take 12 pts of extra damage per round.

Do you make the wounds cumulative per monster? For example, say a person is attacked by 4 Barbazu, and three of the Barbazu land one or more successful attacks with their glaives, the victim would take 6 pts of extra damage per round.

Do you make the wound occur only once? For example, say a person is attacked by 4 Barbazu, and three of the Barbazu land one or more successful attacks with their glaives, the victim would only 2 points of extra damage per round irregardless of the total number of successful hits by any number of creatures with infernal wounding.

I hope this is clear. I am wondering how other DM's run it. It is better than doing Con damage, but it is fairly messy to keep track of. I would love to read how other DM's handle Infernal Wounding.

 

[kender]

Like (IIRC) 3.0 wounding ability I think it would stack, but I'd allow the healer to make just one caster level check or heal check to stop all the wounding.
It has pros:
- time saving
- if he/she succeeds all the wounds are closed
and cons:
- if he/she fails, all the wounds will bleed till next attempt (ie no partial healing)

 

[Celtavian]

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That is why I am asking. The old wounding ability doesn't say it was cumulative either. The only instance of cumulative wounding that I am aware is the 3.0 wounding property for swords.

I can see it being cumulative. I can also see it not being cumulative due to the additional effect of preventing healing. That is a pretty powerful ability all by itself. Maybe they never intended it to be cumulative, but we just assumed it was due to how the wounding sword property worked.

Doesn't anyone face these creatures as least semi-often? There must be a goodly number of folk fighting Baatezu semi-often.

 

[kender]

I know it's a harsh ability but I think it would work like in the weapon description (IMO)
Anyway I don't see a DC 24 check so high for a cleric above 10th level (at which I suppose one can start fighting larger Baatezu)

 

[Celtavian]

re

Does no one fight these creatures? C'mon, some of you must at least haven an opinion. Hypersmurf or any other rules lawyers, what do you think?

 

[Celtavian]

re

Nobody fights creatures with Infernal Wounding except Kender? Man, someone else must fight these fairly often. I just want an opinion on how you run the damage.

 

[Hypersmurf]

Re: re

Hypersmurf or any other rules lawyers, what do you think?

I'd agree with Kender - each wound bleeds for 2 per round, but one successful check will stop all wounds.

-Hyp.

 

[the Jester]

Re: Re: re

I'd agree with Kender - each wound bleeds for 2 per round, but one successful check will stop all wounds.

-Hyp.

Likewise, though I've not yet used anything with this ability in 3.5.

 

[ForceUser]

Coincidentally enough, we just finished a foray into Hell to slay a horned devil - and got back out alive (yay!)

Yes, the wounds stack. It's ugly, but even a cure minor wounds will stop the bleeding provided you make your check, so it's not all that bad. I suggest your cleric makes liberal use of the new mass cure spells. That's what I do, and it rocks.

 

[Celtavian]

re

Thanks for the responses. I pretty much agree with kender's original response, I just wanted to hear from a few more people to see if there were any differing opinions.