Non-Core Class Survivor: Round 17 (Final 3)

[genshou]

*skulks into the thread in the last stretch and sneak attacks the Duskblade*

 

[Particle_Man]

I actually voted against the warlock because they make mediocre NPC's. An NPC warlock is a weak adversary. Its strength lies in his unlimited supply of invocations. Given the short lifespans of NPC's in combat, the warlock is somewhat weak. An npc cleric or wizard is substantially tougher.

Solution #1: Higher level Warlock (but lesser xp reward for killing it)

Solution#2: More Warlocks (ditto)

Solution #3: Warlock with cheezy high-powered staff with 5 charges left. (Warlocks have Grrrrreat UMD abilities).

 

[Musrum]

Solution #4: Harrasement. Blast and Fly Away. Every hour, on the hour. Don't worry about XP, because they are not going to catch him...

 

[Whizbang Dustyboots]

What's wrong with gish?

Unless people are playing githyankis, it's idiotic. Nowhere else does anyone take one race's name for an archetype and use it as a standard term. TWF rangers aren't "Drizzts."

"Fighter/magic-user," "fighter/mage," "hybrid," there are a dozen or more perfectly clear ways to express this without the affectation of "my guy's like a githyanki, but he's actually a good alignment half-drow."

"Gish" is the black trenchcoat and katana of D&D.

 

[Glyfair]

In a fight that came down to the last few votes, the Duskblade gets the boot. We are down to the final round. Who will be the soul survivor? Will the Warlock continue his recent dominance, or will the Duskblade voters turn on the next magical character?

 

[genshou]

Well, with that, I am officially out of the voting process. I'll be interesting in seeing who wins.

 

[Desdichado]

Because of balance issues. The spec-ops soldier stereotype (which I do not think holds true IRL, but that's another story) is simply too good to be a balanced base class. Tough, strong, fast, skilled, capable with weapons, capable in unarmed combat, cunning, able to survive, agile, athletic... the list just keeps going. It's got "prestige class" written all over it. Or gestalt, if you prefer that alternative.

BLING! There's the crux of your problem. Commandos ARE NOT as 1337 as you make them out to be. There is no single D&D base class that can emulate the Navy SEAL/ Marine/ US Army Ranger stereotype. But there should be.

 

[genshou]

BLING! There's the crux of your problem. Commandos ARE NOT as 1337 as you make them out to be. There is no single D&D base class that can emulate the Navy SEAL/ Marine/ US Army Ranger stereotype. But there should be.

Same problem people have with the ninja stereotype, IMO. Proper ninja aren't as 1337 as people seem to think they have to be.

But there should be a base class that properly represents the 1337 version of them, just like the commando.