Non-Core Class Survivor: Round 7

Which class do you want to vote off the list?

  • Archivist (Heroes of Horror)

    Votes: 11 4.6%
  • Artificer (Eberron Campaign Setting)

    Votes: 24 10.1%
  • Beguiler (Player's Handbook II)

    Votes: 4 1.7%
  • Binder (Tome of Magic)

    Votes: 9 3.8%
  • Dread Necromancer (Heroes of Horror)

    Votes: 8 3.4%
  • Duskblade (Player's Handbook II)

    Votes: 6 2.5%
  • Favored Soul (Complete Divine)

    Votes: 32 13.5%
  • Knight (Player's Handbook II)

    Votes: 16 6.8%
  • Ninja (Complete Adventurer)

    Votes: 34 14.3%
  • Psion (Expanded Psionics Handbook)

    Votes: 10 4.2%
  • Psychic Warrior (Expanded Psionics Handbook)

    Votes: 5 2.1%
  • Scout (Complete Adventurer)

    Votes: 4 1.7%
  • Shadowcaster (Tome of Magic)

    Votes: 16 6.8%
  • Soulknife (Expanded Psionics Handbook)

    Votes: 33 13.9%
  • Warlock (Complete Arcane)

    Votes: 5 2.1%
  • Warmage (Complete Arcane)

    Votes: 20 8.4%

  • Poll closed .
Favored Soul! Begone!

Ninja: Sudden Strike is fine. I will agree that just giving them Sneak Attack would've been better however. I'm guessing the Ninja is catching flak for not being "eurocentric".
 

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Dude...You make it sound like they're racist for not liking ninjas...

Anyway, I voted Knight. We don't need another base class with a stupid code of conduct.
 


Nonlethal Force said:
So far .. I'm 4 for 6 in helping boot a class. This time I went with Artificer.

My percentage might be in trouble. But ... BOO on Eberron classes!
See, I'm pragmatic--most of the bad classes that I absolutely had to vote are gone now. So I try to make sure that haters don't take out any class that I think is better-designed than another one that is close to being voted off by voting for the other one, even if it isn't the worst of all.
 

Well, in that I most likely agree with you. We both know that the psionics classes won't last too much longer now. The surge of psionic haters will soon unify because most of the bad classes are indeed gone.

Thing is, I really like the favored soul. My only wish is that it didn't give wings. So I ignore that part and modify the class. Poof - no wings. You get rid of the wings and it really isn't that shabby of a class. [I speak with players who play favored souls as to what they would consider a fair replacement for wings. It works out okay.]

Oriental classes I never play, but I've got no hate for them. I've often thought a Samurai would be fun, but with the Duskblade, the fighter, the ranger, the paladin, the cleric ... I never seem to get to it. I suppose that's a good thing, because it got no love here! :)

I think it is quickly coming to the point where I willa ctually lose interest in this thread-chain because before it was "get rid of the bad ones." Now its like losing friends.

Having said that. Down with the Artificer!
 

Im a shadowcaster voter. Awesome flavor, weak mechanics. I will continue voting SC until it's off the list.


Note: It does not do anything, mechanics-wise, that a wizard could do as well or better.
 

Nonlethal Force said:
Well, in that I most likely agree with you. We both know that the psionics classes won't last too much longer now. The surge of psionic haters will soon unify because most of the bad classes are indeed gone.

Thing is, I really like the favored soul. My only wish is that it didn't give wings. So I ignore that part and modify the class. Poof - no wings. You get rid of the wings and it really isn't that shabby of a class.

Oriental classes I never play, but I've got no hate for them. I've often thought a Samurai would be fun, but with the Duskblade, the fighter, the ranger, the paladin, the cleric ... I never seem to get to it. I suppose that's a good thing, because it got no love here! :)

I think it is quickly coming to the point where I willa ctually lose interest in this thread-chain because before it was "get rid of the bad ones." Now its like losing friends.

Having said that. Down with the Artificer!
Actually, though I have nothing against the Asian classes and have built Asian-themed classes myself, the CW Samurai honestly deserved to be voted out with respect to its own poor mechanics :)

Otherwise, completely agreed with ya!
 


Same deal. Psi first then Incarnum (if they last longer than Psi). Will re-evaluate everything after those goals are met.

Since Incarnum classes appear to be gone, my only beef is Psi classes.
 
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