November 16th release for Web-based Character Builder

[malraux]

I'm still at a loss to see how this new CB is an improvement over the old one, and that's what has me most annoyed. I certainly don't see why WotC expects annoy to welcome these changes.

 

[UngainlyTitan]

I'm still at a loss to see how this new CB is an improvement over the old one, and that's what has me most annoyed. I certainly don't see why WotC expects annoy to welcome these changes.

Its is not as it stands, however it does have potential. it not not my main reason for subscribing though.

 

[Keefe the Thief]

I'm still at a loss to see how this new CB is an improvement over the old one, and that's what has me most annoyed. I certainly don't see why WotC expects annoy to welcome these changes.

The most obvious? It's multi-platform. Which, if you remember, we had multi-thread-thousand-post flamewars about when DDI was announced and it wasn't in.

 

[malraux]

The most obvious? It's multi-platform. Which, if you remember, we had multi-thread-thousand-post flamewars about when DDI was announced and it wasn't in.

I'm a mac user. With the advent of processors with virtualization hardware built in for quite a while now, multiplatform hasn't really been an issue for several years.

 

[Scribble]

I'm a mac user. With the advent of processors with virtualization hardware built in for quite a while now, multiplatform hasn't really been an issue for several years.

Apparently it was a big enough issue to cause several threads about it.

In anycase the change is one of those updates that sucks for some, is awesome for others, doesn't do much one way or the other for still others.

Where you sit on the spectrum depends I guess on where/when/how you accessed the CB, what you felt you were paying for with your subscription, etc...

It's not an "It's great for everyone!" or an "It sucks for everyone!" sort of thing... which is probably worse because this sort of situation always seems to start the most arguments.

 

[evilref]

Also it could mean they are looking at a plan to sell more space - think character slots in MMOs.

It could also mean they're planning on giving everyone a free car - think Oprah giving away cars on her shows.

 

[DEFCON 1]

The other thing to remember here is that WotC knows they are going to annoy people in the short term because of what the CB is not able to do from the start... but in the next month, two months, three months etc... one by one those annoyances are going to drop away as new functionality is added. And in just a little while, we are all going to forget just how angry we were at this point in time.

I mean... is anyone out there still angry about the gnome, half-orc, druid and barbarian? I seem to recall a whole heap of piss and vinegar aimed directly at WotC when it was revealed that those four things were not going to be in the first Player's Handbook. We had all kinds of people going on and on about how they won't be able to upgrade their character to 4E, that if this is how WotC was going to treat them then they don't deserve their business yadda yadda yadda.

But then, nine months later... once the PHII got released... we haven't heard hide nor hair of any complaints about that situation anymore. And the same thing can be said for the CB as it stands.

WotC is going to take the slings and arrows from us messageboard folk for however many months it takes before they reveal the additional CB support or additional tools... and just accept the insults in the short term... knowing full-well that in six(?), nine(?) months time they are going to announce the release of X or Y or Z and suddenly all the caterwauling virtually die out.

 

[ki11erDM]

That's not a real convincing reason to limit to 20 characters.

It is clear your job does not depend on a server being up 99.9%. Spend a few months with that axe over your head and you would have a different perspective on your statement, or you would be out of a job.

I can see 20 being low for a power user… but I have never, ever, had 20 characters in CB. *shrug*

 

[malraux]

It is clear your job does not depend on a server being up 99.9%. Spend a few months with that axe over your head and you would have a different perspective on your statement, or you would be out of a job.

I can see 20 being low for a power user… but I have never, ever, had 20 characters in CB. *shrug*

Oh I agree that some limit should be imposed. Just that 20 is very very low. I'll also bet that the WotC servers won't have 99.9% uptime.

 

[Herschel]

20 is four (4!) "optimal" parties worth of chatracters. Three "max" parties with a couple of spare spots. For a single user that should be plenty.