Nymph vampire

Flyspeck23 said:
The Nymph's a fey, and the vampire template can only be added to humanoid or monstrous humanoid creatures.

Of course a Nymph vampire means trouble rule-wise ;)

That said, I'd go for DR 10/silver and magic.

WotC's broken those rules often enough themselves, with things like a gibbering mouther vampire in
The Heart of Nightfang Spire
adventure and vampiric dragons in the Draconomicon, so I say you do whatever you want, or more specifically, whatever helps your game.

I'd say DR 10/cold iron and silver and magic myself.
 

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shilsen said:
WotC's broken those rules often enough themselves, with things like a gibbering mouther vampire in
The Heart of Nightfang Spire
adventure and vampiric dragons in the Draconomicon, so I say you do whatever you want, or more specifically, whatever helps your game.
Of course. I didn't say "Stay the hell away from applying a template to a creature type it wasn't supposed to be applied", but rather "If you're bending the rules, don't expect an official answer".

Anyway, AFAIK mixing two materials isn't possible. Magic, alignment, special material and weapon type I could see adding up, but not twice the same category.
 

Flyspeck23 said:
The Nymph's a fey, and the vampire template can only be added to humanoid or monstrous humanoid creatures.

Of course a Nymph vampire means trouble rule-wise ;)

That said, I'd go for DR 10/silver and magic.

But aha! I had the same problem when I designed my first vampire nymph. Enter the monstrous vampire from Ghostwalk, and there you are!

BTW, she's now a vampire lord (started out with 12 HD as a nymph) and is the players' major enemy.... And I go with DR 10/silver, magic AND cold iron (so that's more or less 10/-).

:)
 
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die_kludge, I just wanted to say I saw the thread subject and concluded that a nymph vampire was about the sexiest thing I'd heard of in quite a while.

That said, I'd probably go with either silver&magic, or magic & (cold iron OR silver). She started as a nymph but crossing over changed her and could override the fey quality. Making it require all three seems a bit severe.
 

Li Shenron said:
How can a weapon be both Silver and Cold Iron at the same? Is there a rule for multi-material crafted weapons?

I would simply make DR 10/Magic & (Silver OR Cold Iron) or otherwise DR 10/(Magic & Silver) OR Cold Iron.

There's no rule for weapons of multiple materials in the ELH. Penetrate Damage Reduction (an epic feat) lets characters bypass DR as though the weapon they were using was made of a single chosen material -- the feat can be taken multiple times for multiple materials. So a character with Penetrate Damage Reduction (silver) and a magical cold iron weapon can get around the DR.
 

Don't have Ghostwalk unfortunately, but the monstrous vampire template seems like a cool concept.

I statted out the nymph vampire yesterday. I'll post her in the rogue's gallery when I get a chance.

Zad, I can't say that I've ever heard of a nymph vampire before. It just kind of worked out for me this way. I hadn't originally intended to create one, but now that I have an opportunity to do so, it just seems to great to pass up! :)
 

die_kluge said:
Don't have Ghostwalk unfortunately, but the monstrous vampire template seems like a cool concept.

It's identical to the normal vampire template, but can be applied to abberation, animal, dragon, fey, giant, humanoid, magical beast, monstrous humanoid, or vermin.

Only difference is that they usually don't have coffins but instead bonds to a large stone from their burial site (the 'tombstone'). Says nothing about that they can't have a coffin, though.


:)
 
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Sorcica said:
It's identical to the normal vampire template, but can be applied to abberation, animal, dragon, fey, giant, humanoid, magical beast, monstrous humanoid, or vermin.
*shudders*

It's good to know that that template has been added. I had a vampire-troll cleric as a big bad once, and it was one of the nastiest combats my players ever fought.

Regeneration + Immune to Nonlethal damage makes for one tough cookie.
 

Li Shenron said:
How can a weapon be both Silver and Cold Iron at the same? Is there a rule for multi-material crafted weapons?

I would simply make DR 10/Magic & (Silver OR Cold Iron) or otherwise DR 10/(Magic & Silver) OR Cold Iron.


Well - get a cold iron masterwork weapon enchanted with the "Truesilver" ability from the "Ghostwalk" setting (WotC ) - effectively the weapon becomes a silver weapon in addition to whatever other material it is made from - plus some other benefits, although these are basically nice mainly in the "Ghostwalk" setting. And yes, it can be added at any time, not only at the moment of the weapon's forging. Useful .
 
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die_kluge said:
What would the DR of a Nymph Vampire be?

Nymph - DR 10/Cold Iron
Vampire - DR 10/Silver & Magic

DR 10/Cold Iron silvered magic???

Since DR can be seen as a vulnerability - "I'm invincible to anything except kryptonite!", I would rule that the nymph vampire inherits both weaknesses. This would translate into:

DR 10/Cold Iron OR Silver and Magic

So any cold iron weapon would affect it normally. Any magical silvered weapon would also affect it normally.

Just my two cents...
 

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