Once you go C&C, you never go back

[Particle_Man]

Hey Peter, any chance you will do or have done a tribute to Sutherland's "A Paladin in Hell"?

 

[Dristram]

Phil, C&Cs artwork is far more similar to 3E then 1E (or classic fantasy of that era), its still got all the modern 3E elements I hate.

See and I am one who doesn't care for 3e artowrk, who likes the pre-DragonLance artwork, but does like the work of those artists, and I like Peter's work. Though not completely. I think it's a little too clean and smooth or something. I can't quite place it. But I see it as his style and I can definitely see his talent.

As for action, check out the cover of the 1E PH to see what I mean. Of all the artwork I've seen from C&C, only a few pieces would fit in to old school.

I'm sure you can't mean to compare skill here. Because Peter's skill blows away the artists of the original PHB. But I think I understand what you mean. There isn't a lot of "scenes" that "tell a story". Art pieces that inspire adventure. I would agree with you there. I would not hold Peter accountable for that. That is an issue for the art director. That said, I don't know how that equates to the art in C&C being horrible. That comment hits directly at Peter's skill at an artist.

Like I said, C&C is a fine game for people looking for a 3E/D20 light system, but isn't a return to 1E, not by a long shot.

A agree except for the long shot part. If I wanted a return to 1E, I would play 1E. I have all the books and if I didn't, I could still get them. I think C&C would have been a better follow-on from 2E than 3E was. 3E changed D&D a lot. C&C would have been a more minor transition. Lets go back to 1998, and if I were asked which system woud make a better 3rd Edition AD&D between C&C, HackMaster, and d20/D&D, I'd say it would be a toss-up between HackMaster and C&C. And C&C would be more of a change in basic mechanics as HackMaster is essentially AD&D on steriods. I like HackMaster, but I prefer C&C because it's more rules-lite.

 

[gideon_thorne]

Hey Peter, any chance you will do or have done a tribute to Sutherland's "A Paladin in Hell"?

Actually, yes. I haven't forgotten your initial request that you made. I have a work in progress for that very thing for the forthcoming CKG.

 

[gideon_thorne]

That is an issue for the art director.

And be assured that he considers this along with any reasonably phrased issue brought to his attention. *coughs*.

 

[Dristram]

Misunderstood question. Deleted.

 

[Philotomy Jurament]

...I like Peter's work. Though not completely. I think it's a little too clean and smooth or something. I can't quite place it.

I have the same reaction to some pieces. Peter often uses a very smooth and flowing look with his shading and also his lines (fluid, organic, and curvy are also terms that spring to mind). I think this is one of the reasons his women turn out so well.

 

[Philotomy Jurament]

Love your avatar, Dristram.

 

[gideon_thorne]

I have the same reaction to some pieces. Peter often uses a very smooth and flowing look with his shading and also his lines (fluid, organic, and curvy are also terms that spring to mind). I think this is one of the reasons his women turn out so well.

Naturally. I tend to like women who are fluid, curvy and definitely organic. As opposed, perhaps to ones made of polymers. *impish grin*

 

[Philotomy Jurament]

Naturally. I tend to like women who are fluid, curvy and definitely organic. As opposed, perhaps to ones made of polymers. *impish grin*

No argument from me. I like curvy and organic women, and avoid those made of polymers or polygons. The name "Polly" is okay, though. In fact, it's kind of cute...

 

[Dristram]

I think this is one of the reasons his women turn out so well.

I can't agree more! I had asked Peter when he would do an all girl calendar.

Oh, and I've admired your avatar as well. It's my favorite PHB piece. I think it's been the single biggest inspiration for me being a huge fan of Paladins since I started playing D&D.