One Column vs Two Columns and other questions

[GMSkarka]

I'm telling you that is what was sent to me in the zipped files, why would I make something up like that

You're mistaken.

I just double-checked, downloading the package via the same link that was sent to you. (Since I'm the guy who sent it.)

It contained a zipped folder. In the folder were the following files:

RPGNow_Vendor_Guide.pdf
RPGNow_Service_Contract.pdf
ProductsSTD.pdf
PDFCreator.zip
New_Vendor_Instructions.txt
ePublisherGuide.zip
ePublisherD20OGL.zip

You'll note the stunning lack of any SRD files, whether anime or otherwise.

Your bizarre claims, not to mention even more bizarre syntax, aren't really helping you or your company. You really should stop posting, read the files that I've listed above, figure out how to do things, and maybe get someone else to rep your company on public fora.

 

[Felon]

I can only guess that Prowler is not a native speaker of the English language, so I could live with most of the syntax issues...but line breaks aren't exactly a difficult technique to master.

Y'know, this stopped being a discussion a long time ago. Now it's more like an intervention.

 

[arwink]

You'll note the stunning lack of any SRD files, whether anime or otherwise.

In all fairness my zip of the e-publishersd20ogl did include a stack of files from the d20 SRD document and others, it's possible that he's refering to that.

 

[Eosin the Red]

Y'know, this stopped being a discussion a long time ago. Now it's more like an intervention.

I gotta agree with Felon here. I am a pretty forgiving fella but advertisement sure has paid in this case. If you can't figure out how to operate a carriage return and form a thought, then for god's sake don't represent a professional effort on a public forum.

I want to know who had the onerous duty of reading the submission?


PROWLER - In an effort to derive some value from this thread, I would suggest that you take the advice offered in the kindest spirit that you can. RPGnow wants to make money, they are a business and that is the end goal of business. They have reviewed your submission and determined that it will not make them money and, in fact, may cost them money in the long term. You need to step back and punt.

I would suggest that you start by HIRING a professional editor. See what a pro has to say -- and no, your buddy who works at company XX as a writer doesn't count. Pay someone money and put their name right under those covers along side of your own. This is called a vested interest. Nobody that I know wants thier name associated with a hunk of steaming dung. The good news is this, if you hire a pro, he or she will improve your project or put a bullet in it rather than allow you to put their name on it.

Second point, taking a dig at a business because they refused to recognize the glory of your endeavor is sinking about as low as you can go. A good number of people on ENworld and, I say with some certianty, all of the people who have posted on this thread, understand far more about why a famous someone left RPGnow than you. You apparently either don't know the factors involved or are purposefully distorting them to cause harm. Ignorance or malice?

I wish you the best of luck but unless you understand the conventions, breaking them is the surest path of folly.

 

[HellHound]

You look really hard at all the covers at rpg and their overglossed with characters and monsters.

Look again. Really. You may notice that many of the covers on said site are not what you claim in this thread. I *know* that it is not the case with our product covers, and we are one of the top-selling vendors @ RPGnow.

We will not be putting a race or monster or adding anything to the pic.

You don't need to. The cover art is good, but the cover DESIGN is what is causing you problems.

This is probably why there is some merit as to why the major game designer who used to sell his stuff there no longer does. Course, he can afford to pull his products, but perhaps like with us there was some rules consistency that he didnt agree with.

Instead of slinging rumours about this, why not come out and tell the truth? That said game designer moved over to an exclusive contract with another vendor - a vendor that happens to be the same vendor as his print distributor and who, at the time, only offered exclusive contracts - either you sold only on that site, or you didn't sell at all on that site. In fact, several companies who operated using that same distributor were int he position of pulling their products from the one store front you are having issues with because of the new distribution arrangements at the new storefront.

Claiming that these companies pulled out of the store front because they had issues with the rules of uploading quality products is bunk. The companies in question always produce products of very high quality, with professionally designed covers and internal layout.

 

[GMSkarka]

In all fairness my zip of the e-publishersd20ogl did include a stack of files from the d20 SRD document and others, it's possible that he's refering to that.

Well, given the fact that his account shows only the purchase of a Vendor Set-up package, and not the EpublishersD20ogl, that would mean that someone else in his company had picked up that one, and he's confusing the two.

Simply put, the fact that he can't tell the difference between them, when one is clearly marked VENDOR SET-UP, and contains all of the instructions he needs to follow, isn't exactly a glowing recommendation for his readiness to operate a publishing business.

 

[HellHound]

I've taken the time to look over 30 pages of the product in question (the 30 page preview posted)

1. The single-column layout -is- very difficult to read. Even in 11-point Times New Roman.

2. Chapter 2 starts at the bottoms of the alstpage of chapter 1... well, doesn't actually start, but the TITLE of chapter 2 is there, and then the text of chapter 2 starts on the next page, sans title.

3. Although you say that you understand the rule of 2's in another thread, you still have a race in there with a +2 bonus to one stat, 'balanced' by a -1 penalty to two stats... another has +1 to two stats and -1 to two stats.

4. The tables are, quite frankly, horrid. here, I'll show a demonstration:

- There's really no excuse for the weird table layout for Level, 4th and 9th level spells... On top of that, the tables create large white-spaces in the document where they don't fit on one page and then appear on the next.

5. Finally, on to the Open Game License: You do know that anything derived from Open Game Content must in turn be released as open game content, correct? Yet, your OGL statement is that the player character races, mechanics for customizing classes, entire prestige classes, and much more are protexted as PI and are not Open Game Content. Further, you have not referenced the System Reference Document in your Section 15 in accordance with Section 6, which seems strange as there is obviously material in your product that -is- derivative of material in the SRD (unless the races and classes were developed without ever seeing the material from the core d20 rules, in which case I wish to give you credit for blindly developing a cleric class that is much like the one in the core rules and that references the core rules in several places).


That said, if this was laid out properly, edited one more time, and then given to someone with a critical eye for d20 rules and balance, and then given a well-designed cover, I think this might do well as a product...
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Completely aside: I have balance issues regarding a level 3 clerical spell that deals 1d4 electricity and 1d4 holy damage per caster level to the target (without a damage cap), as well as deafening all within 30 feet of the target (no save vs the deafening)

 

[philreed]

Further, you have not referenced the System Reference Document in your Section 15 in accordance with Section 6, which seems strange as there is obviously material in your product that -is- derivative of material in the SRD (unless the races and classes were developed without ever seeing the material from the core d20 rules, in which case I wish to give you credit for blindly developing a cleric class that is much like the one in the core rules and that references the core rules in several places).

I see this problem a lot with products at RPGNow. A significant number of people do not understand the OGL.

Completely aside: I have balance issues regarding a level 3 clerical spell that deals 1d4 electricity and 1d4 holy damage per caster level to the target (without a damage cap), as well as deafening all within 30 feet of the target (no save vs the deafening)

Hmmm. Maybe it's time to play a cleric . . .

 

[HellHound]

Hmmm. Maybe it's time to play a cleric . . .

This really doesn't belong in this thread, so..

[HIJACK]
I think it would be really fun to release a product of all the most over-powered OGL material out there... grab every spell you can find that's over-powered, every class, every PC race, and then enhance each one a little bit and put it into a book much akin to the Munchkin RPG books - "This stuff is better than the usual stuff... it kicks the regular rules in the nether regions and takes his lunch money!"

 

[carpedavid]

Well, given the fact that his account shows only the purchase of a Vendor Set-up package, and not the EpublishersD20ogl, that would mean that someone else in his company had picked up that one, and he's confusing the two.

Simply put, the fact that he can't tell the difference between them, when one is clearly marked VENDOR SET-UP, and contains all of the instructions he needs to follow, isn't exactly a glowing recommendation for his readiness to operate a publishing business.

Er, not to be contrary, but I just purchased the Vendor Set-Up package about two weeks ago, and downloaded the RPGNowSetup.zip file. This file contains the following:

ePublisherD20OGL.zip
ePublisherGuide.zip
New_Vendor_Instructions.txt
ProductsSTD.pdf
RPGNow_Service_Contract.pdf
RPGNow_Vendor_Guide.pdf
PDFCreator.zip

The first file, ePublisherD20OGL.zip, is the one in question, I think, because it contains the Anime d20 SRD, the d20 Modern SRD, the d20 SRD, the Action! System SRD, the d20 license mail-in-card, and several licenses.

At least, that's what I got in mine. I figured that they were provided so that the potential vendor had the items to compare their product against. As this is completely off topic, if you want to PM me with any questions about the file (or email me: garrettdmATameritechDOTnet), I'd be happy to verify that's what I received. While the documents are certainly nice, there's no reason to be giving away products that you hadn't intended .